BPPC schematics

[cynkronyze]

Hi,

I know this may sound a little absurd. So give me your best shot and please someone convince me to get out of my dream.

Is there anyway we can get the schematics of the BPPC 603e accelerator board & 68060 so that maybe I can use my sources to print new boards or maybe design an fpga version.

1) is it worth it?
2)how many will be interested?


Let the fireworks begin. All comments and suggestions welcome.
regards,

Cynk

[djbase]

Sure, pay DCE a lot of money and you may get what you want.

[bloodline]

cynkronyze wrote:
Hi,

I know this may sound a little absurd. So give me your best shot and please someone convince me to get out of my dream.

Is there anyway we can get the schematics of the BPPC 603e accelerator board & 68060 so that maybe I can use my sources to print new boards or maybe design an fpga version.

1) is it worth it?

The schematics are worthless. You probably can't get half the components used. They are not RoHS. There are plenty of modern PPC reference designs around. They certainly wouldn't help any FPGA work.

2)how many will be interested?

How many people really want to bolt a PPC on to an A1200 Mobo, essentially just to use the A1200 as a Keyboard and Mouse interface... since you would want to offload everything else from the Amiga (ie gfx/audio/disk)...

[actung_bab]

sorry for sounding mean . but you just cant print them you need very expensive equipment to make these with surface mounted chips and very small parts.
not to mention as in previous message .
a private company designed these boards in germany phase5
and dce brought the design .
you have to pay them there are not going to give them away
the boards are multi layer meaning there tracks in between what you can see.
we cant even get a scsi driver for them and thats in the rom.


 :-) nice thought though buddy

[weirdami]

It would be neat if there was a multi layered circuit board where no traces are visible on the outside at all. It would be all secret and hush hush and nobody would know how it worked.  :idea:

[Framiga]

a BPPC seems to have from 9 to 11 layers, so go figure! ;-)

[skurk]

weirdami wrote:
It would be neat if there was a multi layered circuit board where no traces are visible on the outside at all. It would be all secret and hush hush and nobody would know how it worked.  :idea:

Hehe, well, you can see through a PCB just by holding it up against a bright light.  And you can x-ray the whole thing. If that doesn't help, you can brute-force your way though it with a multimeter, tons of datasheets and an equal amount of patience. :-D

If you ask me, they should have released the schematics as public domain for a long time ago.  That would've been respectable, as opposed to taking the secret with you six feet under...

[billt]

If you were really desperate, you'd sacrafice a few boards. Remove all components from one board, scan the top and bottom layers, grid them off, scan the lext layers, grind them off, scan the next layers, until no more layers. You can get a reasonably facsimile tht way. problem then comes the components. Can you still get them? If not, then skip step 1 completely as it's a waste of time. Even if you can, are they still sellable as a product. If not, then skip step 1 again for the same reason.

Considering what's involved, start over from scratch. It's easier and cheaper, and you'll know you're getting a product you can get parts for and sell to ROHS countries. Probably have a better product as well. Try to give me a UGM slot on it and I'll be happy!

[CLS2086]

Good luck !

[delshay]

can anyone please help find the pinout for the microchips on the Blizzard PPC & Bvision cards & post them here thx.

check out this PPC processor WED3C7410E16M-XBHX do a search or you can download the docs here.

http://cpu.linuxmania.net/liste/cpuinfo/technical-data_CPU.htm

[Plaz]

I started a similar thread a while back and didn't have much luck. Whatever documentation exists isn't being shared. I see any PPC card project needing 3 basic peices... schematics, RoHS replacement parts and bios. All 3 needed for success.

I think Oliver (coldfire project) has a good idea to replace the CPU in an 030 card with a coldfire. It would have code compatibility issues and won't run OS4 but would still be a neat new toy for an old Amiga. Coldfire Aros even...

Plaz