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Re: MAI Logic Website Disappeared
« Reply #74 from previous page: May 23, 2005, 01:00:11 AM »
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fast cheap solution to the A1


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Hey, Acill, how do you feel about a console port to a real cheap PPC solution?  Nintendo Gamecube.  Seriously.


I think its a stupid idea, I am interested in a computer not a game machine. What good would it do on that? I didnt intend to burst your buble or anything, but thats how I feel.
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Re: MAI Logic Website Disappeared
« Reply #75 on: May 23, 2005, 02:32:33 AM »
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I am interested in a computer not a game machine.


Do you know how ironic that statement is?

The Amiga sold the vast majority of it's units as ...a games machine!
Guess what it was originally designed as?

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While the GC is unrealistic it would be fine for an Amiga type OS, what's more it's now sold ten thousand* times more units than the A1 or Peg* and it's cheap.

He does have a point...



*Sales at end of 2004 were 18 millions units worldwide.

**Peg may have sold more as Linux machines but I'm referring to MorphOS based machines here.
 

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Re: MAI Logic Website Disappeared
« Reply #76 on: May 23, 2005, 03:01:11 AM »
Well if thats how you feel then I cant stop you. The Amiga was a lot
more then that though. Its just most people never got past the game
phase. I for one used it to get through Junior High school, High
School and most of college!
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Re: MAI Logic Website Disappeared
« Reply #77 on: May 23, 2005, 03:52:09 AM »
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countzero:  because if eyetech changes the chipset, also hyperion should make changes in the OS4 for the new chipset, which will make the final OS4 release even later

Depends how good Hyperion's HAL and drivers are -- and whether they have any plans beyond OS4.

Oh yeah, and whether they get any new hardware for a while.

Besides, I doubt people will want to upgrade their platforms after spending all that cash on AmigaOne hardware.  Amigans aren't used to the x86 racket, upgrading in small doses every few months.  There's really no market potential for new Amiga hardware if a whole system swap is required.  Look at how many people are still demanding OS4 on classic hardware -- and those are the real fanatics.

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Lou Dias:  Nintendo Gamecube. Seriously.

I see you're still obsessed with only a PPC-based solution that is not fully PPC compatible.

Why would Nintendo be interested in AmigaOS?  Given the hardware locks, it wouldn't be possible without their direct support, both technically and financially.

Would you expect every AmigaCube developer to have to buy a Nintendo developer's license?  Consoles companies make their money on software.  Nintendo would want their cut, especially if the OS was built on Nintendo's APIs, as you frequently promote.

Look beyond the "at-margin" hardware, and you should realize that it's not as cheap as you think, to say nothing about the extra hardware you need to make it work.

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Wayne:  I sincerely -- and I can't express how badly I want this, but I -- want both efforts to port their Operating system to better, cheaper, more available hardware such as the Macintosh.

For decades the holy grail of computers has been turning hardware into software.  Only Microsoft has really understood this well.

Once Amigans get over technical supiriority and actually write software that gets the job done, Amiga as a platform can move on.  Until then, it's just the same old lies and political bull-dump year after year.  I was really excited about Tao's VP until Hyperion dropped the PPC bomb.  Does Amiga want to be anywhere or not?

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minator:  The Amiga sold the vast majority of it's units as ...a games machine!
Guess what it was originally designed as?

The Amiga's bus was far too sophisticated to be a mere game machine.  It was a full computer with a game machine's graphics capabilities.

Nobody knew anything about multimedia in the time of MS-DOS and 2-color Macs, so nobody used the machine the way it was meant to be used -- through the OS.

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Minator:  *Sales at end of 2004 were 18 millions units worldwide.

I'm sure all of them are interested in AmigaOS, too, where they can all run their software from memory cards and read-only mini-cds with less than a 200Mhz CPU and 24 megs of memory.

Might as well put together a Linux box from last year's x86 hardware.  You can always re-compile your open-source code later if you're truly obsessed over having a PPC machine.

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Acill:  The Amiga was a lot more then that though. Its just most people never got past the game phase.

Everytime I walked into The Memory Location (PC store), all they used to show off their workhorse 386 and screaming 486 systems was games.  It was pretty depressing to hear everyone joke about the Amiga being a game machine when Wing Commander alone sold millions of PCs (even though it sucked).
 

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Re: MAI Logic Website Disappeared
« Reply #78 on: May 25, 2005, 05:41:08 AM »
Because games, thousands of colors, stereo music, speech and multitasking are useless... until their machines have it (even if in a hacknied way).


Here's the plan.  We find a rich businessman like Branson or Trump or Soros or Murdoch who need a tax dodge-- a business to operate at a loss to reduce their overall tax obligation.  They create good hardware and either buy the AmigaOS-holding company, or buy an Amiga OS license.  They operate at a loss to get a tax advantage for their previously-existing endeavors. We get real Amiga hardware. They get exploit the tax system to reduce their taxes.  Everybody's happy.

Evil.  But genius.  And very American.
 

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Re: MAI Logic Website Disappeared
« Reply #79 on: May 25, 2005, 09:26:08 AM »
>SOROS BRANSON TRUMP

Hi
In 2000, Invisible Hands (aka Kouri Capital) financed Amiga Inc.
The owner of Kouri Capital is none other than George Soros.

Because of the powerful Amiga Curse, both Invisible Hand and Kouri were bankrupt in 2001. American Heritage Fund loss approx US$ 400 M because of Kouri Capital problems.

No Sane investor, even multi billionaire want to invest in Amiga Inc or related companies (ie MAI Logic). Perhaps only drug lords who want to "clean" their money will invest in cursed companies.
 

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Re: MAI Logic Website Disappeared
« Reply #80 on: May 27, 2005, 06:40:53 AM »
Hate to break up the party, but us news-suppression-agenda-conspiracy people have to break it to you, the MAI site is back...
 

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Re: MAI Logic Website Disappeared
« Reply #81 on: May 27, 2005, 10:09:44 AM »
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Wiffy wrote:
Hate to break up the party, but us news-suppression-agenda-conspiracy people have to break it to you, the MAI site is back...


I had forgotten their web address so I went here :www.mailogic.com


Direct Mail for Tax Professionals

We are making a few changes to the site and will be back on line soon.

If you have any questions about our products or services, give us a call at:

1-888-370-6845
info@mailogic.com
760.940.9455
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Then realised it was the wrong site...

well, it WOULD have been funny ;-)
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Re: MAI Logic Website Disappeared
« Reply #82 on: May 27, 2005, 01:12:31 PM »
by Wiffy on 2005/5/27 1:40:53

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Hate to break up the party, but us news-suppression-agenda-conspiracy people have to break it to you, the MAI site is back...


Does it mention if they paid their workers off yet? :)

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Re: MAI Logic Website Disappeared
« Reply #83 on: May 27, 2005, 02:27:25 PM »
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Wiffy wrote:
Hate to break up the party, but us news-suppression-agenda-conspiracy people have to break it to you, the MAI site is back...

So it is.  Too bad I say.  Still a great number of unanswered questions though.

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Re: MAI Logic Website Disappeared
« Reply #84 on: May 27, 2005, 02:58:39 PM »
This website is very old (from 2004) That's not the website
they had before their website went down early May (no
SmartTerminal info on frontpage etc.).

Seems someone used archive.org to backup some data to put it
online...

PS: http://www.mai.com/support/WS_FTP.LOG
 

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Re: MAI Logic Website Disappeared
« Reply #85 on: June 03, 2005, 11:35:35 PM »
There some broken image links on the front page too, looks like someone's just done a quick bodge job.  Is it still registered to the same ISP as before?
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Re: MAI Logic Website Disappeared
« Reply #86 on: June 04, 2005, 12:44:43 AM »
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Lou Dias:  Nintendo Gamecube. Seriously.

I see you're still obsessed with only a PPC-based solution that is not fully PPC compatible.

Why would Nintendo be interested in AmigaOS?  Given the hardware locks, it wouldn't be possible without their direct support, both technically and financially.

Would you expect every AmigaCube developer to have to buy a Nintendo developer's license?  Consoles companies make their money on software.  Nintendo would want their cut, especially if the OS was built on Nintendo's APIs, as you frequently promote.

Look beyond the "at-margin" hardware, and you should realize that it's not as cheap as you think, to say nothing about the extra hardware you need to make it work.


Um only if you wanted a 1.8GB disc burned.  Otherwise you are coding with the Amiga API and can run software from a mapped networked drive (SAMBA).  There's also a usb->memory card port device... Not to mention devices that let you plug in ps2 keyboard and mice into the GC's controller ports.  Let's not overlook the progressive scan mode of the machine which will give a better display (can be made into a VGA port connector) than any non-video card equipped Amiga and is more powerful than any Amiga graphics (3rd-party or otherwise) chipset (12 million fully texture-mapped T&L'd real world polygons/sec).  And yes the 64 channel Dolby Prologic II Surround ain't to shabby either...


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minator:  The Amiga sold the vast majority of it's units as ...a games machine!
Guess what it was originally designed as?

The Amiga's bus was far too sophisticated to be a mere game machine.  It was a full computer with a game machine's graphics capabilities.

Nobody knew anything about multimedia in the time of MS-DOS and 2-color Macs, so nobody used the machine the way it was meant to be used -- through the OS.


Dude, you know it was supposed to be a game machine and the OS was thrown in LATEr.

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Minator:  *Sales at end of 2004 were 18 millions units worldwide.

I'm sure all of them are interested in AmigaOS, too, where they can all run their software from memory cards and read-only mini-cds with less than a 200Mhz CPU and 24 megs of memory.

Might as well put together a Linux box from last year's x86 hardware.  You can always re-compile your open-source code later if you're truly obsessed over having a PPC machine.


Some of us would welcome it...as we already own the GC and are HERE.  Others here would recognized it's value and the fact that the OS would actually exist would be a selling point.  Finally there is a small % of current GAMECUBE OWNERS who would see it reviewed in a MAJOR magazine (online or print) and try it out.  This last market is bigger than the current A1 market by 100 fold.  Of the ~19 million owners, the poorest title (with no replay value) sells 60k copies.

Also, it's a 485MHz (not 200) G3 Gekko cpu with 38 SIMD instructions thrown in that aren't in previous G3's which puts it more on par with a G4's capabilities.  Last time I looked, I've never seen a real Amiga ship with more than 4MB.  And 24 + 16 = 40 MB which is what the GC comes with.