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Offline wawrzon

Re: It's been a long time
« Reply #74 from previous page: May 02, 2017, 02:16:48 PM »
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I know I read the ML ;P


If that crosscompiling icu issue was solved we might perhaps have odyssey for all platforms in an instant, it was the same showstopper when i tried to compile it for 68k last year.
 

Offline Iggy

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Re: It's been a long time
« Reply #75 on: May 02, 2017, 02:23:03 PM »
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You actually missed that when Stanislaw Szymczyk made the original AROS version of OWB he and fab cooperated.


Good points all.

And the "crap" comment about AROS may be a bit much (although the video drivers leave a LOT to be desired).
And no, I don't lump you guys in with the "real Amiga" crowd, but I do think the OS4 crowd IS responsible for a large part of the friction.

AmigaOS ought to simply be public domain as AInc never really acquired the rights to it or any other products it tried to sell outside of a trademark.
And outside of Cloanto, no one has a claim to it that predates the fiasco known as Amiga Incorporated.

In any case, its not my intention to increase our divisions.
I have legacy hardware, MorphOS hardware, AND an AROS system.
I do NOT have an OS4 system (although I suppose an emulated environment might be worth exploring).
I have committed to buying a P5040 based X5000 once it is introduced (even though a PowerMac G5 Quad 2.5 should outperform that), so eventually I will have real OS4 hardware (which I will then run MorphOS and Linux on primarily). SO...I'll have that covered.

And then there are the fpga systems (I already have an Altera DE1 and will be buying other hardware).

And, I don't hoard. I participate where I can, and try follow developments in ALL communities (I'm currently following Han de Ruiter's great online OpenGL tutorials).

As I've said before, I have a few contacts in the legacy and AROS communities. I've tried that with the OS4 community, but outside of Trevor and Hans, I usually get comments like "I'm only interested in 'real' AmigaOS" and I wonder if they mean OS3.1?

As I've said in past posts, I've owned Cloanto's packages for some time now.
Its gratifying seeing them carry on. Hyperion? Not so much.
"Not making any hard and fast rules means that the moderators can use their good judgment in moderation, and we think the results speak for themselves." - Amiga.org, terms of service

"You, got to stem the evil tide, and keep it on the the inside" - Rogers Waters

"God was never on your side" - Lemmy

Amiga! "Our appeal has become more selective"
 

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Re: It's been a long time
« Reply #76 on: May 02, 2017, 04:25:28 PM »
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It's also the reason I barely post anymore.   Typically I will only post now and then about the development status of Final Writer.


Are you the developer then?
 

Offline OlafS3

Re: It's been a long time
« Reply #77 on: May 02, 2017, 04:42:14 PM »
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Are you the developer then?

he is the owner, not the developer
 

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Re: It's been a long time
« Reply #78 on: May 02, 2017, 04:44:24 PM »
Thanks! Off to bed now, get my 5 hours of sleep before hitting my "day" again.
 

Offline scuzzb494

Re: It's been a long time
« Reply #79 on: May 03, 2017, 02:53:03 PM »
You know that you can pretty much emulate anything these days. Some you can even run from a browser. I have a simple view about emulation [ my view ]... it's like food without taste. I've always held a personal opinion [ my opinion ] that you should participate and not emulate. Some say that the only way the OS can survive is through emulation. I guess that is the issue... whether you are supporting the OS or the Amiga... The 'heart' or the 'machine'. For me its about the machine.

For those seriously keen then simply run a watch on Ebay. Just get the emails on kit and check each day. Put in a nominal bid and expect to fail. But you never know you may be lucky. Get something broken and mend it. Again have it as work in progress and maybe spend like forever fixing it. If you seriously love the Amiga then it really is a rewarding challenge. If however you are simply trying to feed the desire to relive your past becasue of an age issue then yeh... get an emulator. That way you can pretend your using and Amiga, or an Acorn, or a C64.

Today I switched on my Amiga. Not just one but quite a few. I really enjoy my Amigas, always have. And if the house burnt down tomorrow I would not rest until I had replaced them all. You either use an Amiga or you think you do. I have never been confused on that matter.

To quote .... ' A thing of beauty is a joy forever '.

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Re: It's been a long time
« Reply #80 on: May 03, 2017, 03:12:12 PM »
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it's like food without taste...

 ...You either use an Amiga or you think you do. I have never been confused on that matter.

To quote .... ' A thing of beauty is a joy forever '.

 
 Well said!
 

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Re: It's been a long time
« Reply #81 on: May 03, 2017, 07:52:30 PM »
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You know that you can pretty much emulate anything these days. Some you can even run from a browser. I have a simple view about emulation [ my view ]... it's like food without taste. I've always held a personal opinion [ my opinion ] that you should participate and not emulate. Some say that the only way the OS can survive is through emulation. I guess that is the issue... whether you are supporting the OS or the Amiga... The 'heart' or the 'machine'. For me its about the machine.

For those seriously keen then simply run a watch on Ebay. Just get the emails on kit and check each day. Put in a nominal bid and expect to fail. But you never know you may be lucky. Get something broken and mend it. Again have it as work in progress and maybe spend like forever fixing it. If you seriously love the Amiga then it really is a rewarding challenge. If however you are simply trying to feed the desire to relive your past becasue of an age issue then yeh... get an emulator. That way you can pretend your using and Amiga, or an Acorn, or a C64.

Today I switched on my Amiga. Not just one but quite a few. I really enjoy my Amigas, always have. And if the house burnt down tomorrow I would not rest until I had replaced them all. You either use an Amiga or you think you do. I have never been confused on that matter.

To quote .... ' A thing of beauty is a joy forever '.


And here comes the purists.

Quote from:  Terminills


In the end who cares.

I can sum up this thread like this.

AmigaONE is the only NEW Amiga. (MorphOS and AROS are fakes and should be disposed of)

MorphOS developers can walk on water!!!!

Well AROS is the cheapest!

AmigaOS4 is the pure descendant of the code!

Classic hardware is all dying!

FPGA isn't real!

Emulation is evil.

Just like every other thread in the last 17 years.



Also well said...
 

Offline SACC-guy

Re: It's been a long time
« Reply #82 on: May 03, 2017, 11:25:34 PM »
YES, where there is an Amigan, there are five (or more) options