New Timberwolf Beta Now Available

[Karlos]

Jose asked if it used MUI or Reaction, and I answered neither, it's using its own, alien GUI that's not native to Amiga. You felt the need to correct this for some reaso...n

I clarified it. You make it sound as if the "alien" non-amiga GUI is somehow a (negative) feature only of the OS4 port. It isn't. It uses it's own UI components no matter which platform it is running on. There is an underlying, cross-platform portability layer upon which the browser and other mozilla products are built. Firefox's UI may look more "native" on other operating systems, but more often than not, that's just appropriate skinning.

[takemehomegrandma]

Of course it's resizable

That's a good then! I tried Netsurf on Amikit a few weeks ago, which *also* has its own custom, non-Amiga UI rendered inside an Amiga window, and in that case the "rendered content" *didn't* resize when the Amiga window it resided in was resized. It was a horrible user experience...

[B00tDisk]

The default Amiga GUI is ugly; it took about 2-3 months of using Windows back in the 90s to realize that.  It hasn't gotten any better, tbh.  That Firefox brings it's "own look" to things is fine by me.  The elements and layout in FF in Windows are identical to what you're getting on TW in AOS4.  Be glad for it, trust me, you'll all come to love it.

[wawrzon]

windows gui is better than amiga? depends which. 3.9 is not very butilul thats for sure. but magicwb is quite nice. and original themes even though simplistic are alright for the time. compare it to win3.x.. even 95, microsoft were and still are complete losers when it comes to aesthetics and elegant design.

[redfox]

Update...
I cannot save Bookmarks or Show Bookmarks.  I don't know if this feature is disabled or if I simply don't have enough RAM available to manipulate the files.

Other than that, Timberwolf seems to display the websites I normally visit.  I have not tried you-tube or anything fancy, just my normal "amiga" related haunts.

As far as GUI goes, Timberwolf seems to open a normal looking "amiga" window frame with title at the top and close, zoom, depth and sizing gadget.  There are no menus attached to the actual window.  Everything inside the window, including menus appears to be generated by the browser application and look like they would with Mozilla Firefox.  Not sure if every menu entry is the same, but they are arranged in a similar fashion.  Colour scheme for the menu bar is different than Firefox on our XP system at home.

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redfox

[chris]

That's a good then! I tried Netsurf on Amikit a few weeks ago, which *also* has its own custom, non-Amiga UI rendered inside an Amiga window, and in that case the "rendered content" *didn't* resize when the Amiga window it resided in was resized. It was a horrible user experience...

I'm way late replying to this, but I just want to point out that NetSurf-m68k is not representative of NetSurf as a whole.  It's built around the framebuffer frontend which is intended for devices that don't have their own GUI system.

NetSurf for OS4 of course has a proper GUI with Amiga standard gadgets, and when resized the content reflows as it should.

[takemehomegrandma]

I'm way late replying to this

No kidding, bumping a 3 months old thread... :lol:

(Bored, digging through the archives? )

I just want to point out that NetSurf-m68k is not representative of NetSurf as a whole.  It's built around the framebuffer frontend which is intended for devices that don't have their own GUI system.

NetSurf for OS4 of course has a proper GUI with Amiga standard gadgets, and when resized the content reflows as it should.

Eh, OK...

[chris]

No kidding, bumping a 3 months old thread... :lol:

(Bored, digging through the archives? )

Something like that.  3 months late is quite good for me.

Eh, OK...

Some people lump the the NetSurfs in together assuming that the OS4 version is the same as the 68k one.  I've also had comments about the AmiCygnix build (which is way old) from people who have somehow missed the native GUI version.

Henceforth I'm contractually obliged to point out that this is incorrect.  This is an OS4 related thread after all.