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Re: Help setting up a1200 networking needed
« Reply #14 from previous page: March 14, 2011, 06:20:38 PM »
When I had an A1200, I too used Miami and DHCP without problems. Networking to a PC aside for the moment, can you get your Amiga online at least with a direct connection from the modem to the PCMCIA card?

You may have to delete your current Miami config and start over with DHCP, etc. Using my cable provider, I couldn't simply take the ethernet cable off of one computer and plug it into the Amiga. I had to always reset my modem and get a new address in order for the Amiga to become online aware so to speak. Didn't have a router at the time.

And someone else already mentioned the reset bug fix which can be found off Aminet:

http://aminet.net/package/util/boot/CardReset

...have you tried that yet?
 

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Re: Help setting up a1200 networking needed
« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2011, 06:35:07 PM »
Well this is part of why I wanted the network at all. So I can actually tansfer files to the Amiga. I have no internet software on the amiga apart from the ftp client built in Dopus Mag2. For now Ive simply been trying to connect to the ftp server I set up on the pc with all my amiga software. To actually transfer files to the amiga Ive currently had to copy files to a cd/dvd, copy to a temporary drawer on my amithlon box. Open my amiga, remove the harddrive, remove my amithlon ide cdrom drive, plug in a sata drive (only 1 port/2 ide drives are attachable to my amithlon box and sata devices dont work with amithlon(I use it simply to boot bootloader)) plug it into my amithlon box, change jumpers, boot amthlon, copy files accross via amiga shell (same names for amiga and amithlon partitions/devices so cant boot in a "normal" way), restore amithlon box to normal, plug the amiga harddrive back into amiga and put the machine back together.
Needless to say its a painful experience that Im more than a little sick of.
All that aside Ive simply been hot plugging/unplugging the pcmcia card to reset it.
Near as I can tell this is where I write something under the guise of being innocuous, but really its a pot shot at another persons/peoples choice of Amiga based systems. Unfortunately only I cant see how transparent and petty it makes me look.
 

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Re: Help setting up a1200 networking needed
« Reply #16 on: March 14, 2011, 06:46:45 PM »
I know *exactly* how you feel about just wanting stuff like this to work. I'm having lots of "fun" that way with my MacMini and MorphOS every other day. Still can't get it to network or share the internet with my G5.  :mad:

You gotta have a lot of patience, do some reading, ask some questions, learn how to interpret other peoples english and fiddle-faddle around 'til you accidentally get some of these features to finally work. Never underestimate the importance of deleting a config file and restarting your computer before having a go at it again either. I've experienced hauntings in AmigaOS too, where simply warm-booting the computer isn't good enough. Gotta turn it off for several seconds and then turn it back on. Prefs:envarc in RAM: can be a stubborn bitch.  lol

Hang in there and experiment long enough and things start to come around, usually. Hopefully that happens for your before you start smashing things to bits.   :lol:
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Re: Help setting up a1200 networking needed
« Reply #17 on: March 14, 2011, 07:56:25 PM »
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The Amiga shows up in the list of connected devices on my modem/router page, but I cant ping the amiga from pc or vice versa. Additionally using ftp actually says, "conected to host", but will eventually time out. Im using static ip rather than using dhcp.
Im really at a loss. Things seem to be set up correctly, but there's obviously something amiss. Something like that network boot disk would be useful, but unfotunately I cant write to floppy disks on my amiga (drive is partially dead).


Can you ping the router from the Amiga?  And PC?

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Re: Help setting up a1200 networking needed
« Reply #18 on: March 14, 2011, 08:26:18 PM »
Nope, cant ping the router or pc from my amiga, nor can I ping the amiga from the pc.
Near as I can tell this is where I write something under the guise of being innocuous, but really its a pot shot at another persons/peoples choice of Amiga based systems. Unfortunately only I cant see how transparent and petty it makes me look.
 

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Re: Help setting up a1200 networking needed
« Reply #19 on: March 14, 2011, 09:06:22 PM »
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Nope, cant ping the router or pc from my amiga, nor can I ping the amiga from the pc.


But can you ping the router from the pc?

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Re: Help setting up a1200 networking needed
« Reply #20 on: March 14, 2011, 09:10:45 PM »
Yeah I can.
Additionally the router is aware of the amiga being on the network (which makes it weird that I cant ping it), and using query inside miamidx will also detect correct MAC address.
Near as I can tell this is where I write something under the guise of being innocuous, but really its a pot shot at another persons/peoples choice of Amiga based systems. Unfortunately only I cant see how transparent and petty it makes me look.
 

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Re: Help setting up a1200 networking needed
« Reply #21 on: March 14, 2011, 09:30:19 PM »
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Did you use Miami Init??  THEN did you IMPORT the settings?
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Re: Help setting up a1200 networking needed
« Reply #22 on: March 15, 2011, 06:07:52 AM »
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Yeah I can.
Additionally the router is aware of the amiga being on the network (which makes it weird that I cant ping it), and using query inside miamidx will also detect correct MAC address.


I'm still wondering how the router is aware of Amiga? If it would be connected with DHCP, then it would be shown in DHCP table. But when using static addresses it normally doesn't show up anything like that. Maybe it just sees it's connected hardware wise by connected cable and maybe MAC address, but I would guess it doesn't tell anything if you have correct TCP/IP settings or not. Or does it?
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Re: Help setting up a1200 networking needed
« Reply #23 on: March 15, 2011, 07:00:55 AM »
Sort of. It's sometimes ghosted in my router, sometimes not, depending on whether or not there's a connection active. Seems a bit strange to me, but that's how it is.
Near as I can tell this is where I write something under the guise of being innocuous, but really its a pot shot at another persons/peoples choice of Amiga based systems. Unfortunately only I cant see how transparent and petty it makes me look.
 

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Re: Help setting up a1200 networking needed
« Reply #24 on: March 15, 2011, 09:04:39 AM »
My old Netgear router would show any devices attached, whether using DHCP or not. My new Cisco one only shows DHCP clients connected.. Anyway, static IP or dynamic IP shouldn't matter. If the router sees it, the connection seems to be physically ok. What about your subnet mask? Normally you should have 255.255.255.0 on *all* devices on your network - router, MiamiDX, PC. Then the IP addresses for everything should have the first three parts the same - e.g. 192.168.1.x, and only the x should be different for each device.

Try set the Amiga to have a static IP first off as there are some minor issues with DHCP support under certain circumstances using MiamiDX. Give it an address outside what the router assigns (typically this might be 192.168.1.1-192.168.1.51, so try 192.168.1.100), set the subnet mask correctly and you should hopefully be able to ping the router...
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Re: Help setting up a1200 networking needed
« Reply #25 on: March 15, 2011, 09:40:44 AM »
Have you tried a direct connection from A1200 PCMCIA to PC via crossover cable? I sruggled with my A1200 and my router, and the only way I got the network working was a crossover cable between my Mig and PC.
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Re: Help setting up a1200 networking needed
« Reply #26 on: March 15, 2011, 07:33:10 PM »
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my router/modem page is aware of the amiga (it's listed in the connections with correct mac address and ip).


Very bizarre.  Sounds to me like its some obscure setting in Miami somewhere.

One other thing.  Have you tried logging on to the router and pinging the Amiga from there?  Have you made sure there isn't a Wired Isolation setting active on the router somewhere??

Well two things.

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Re: Help setting up a1200 networking needed
« Reply #27 on: March 20, 2011, 02:32:35 AM »
did you get it sorted??