amitcp can't get on the internet

[tasmanian guy]

I guess it will be something very simple when you find it, but I can't see much difference between your settings and mine. I can see (in Netconnect-GenesisPrefs) - Sana - specify Sana-II device = Devs:Networks/3C589.device Unit=0, and config file = Env/Sana2/

Yeah it is strange...  can't believe I got it almost working on amitcp 2.0 but not on the others.

[Karlos]

With respect to amitcp 4, IIRC it can't handle DHCP. I configured my router, which is using DHCP, to reserve a particular IP address for my A1200 (based on the NIC's MAC address). I'm also pretty sure the DNS address in amitcp is pointing to the router as well.

[Karlos]

Just checked and the name server is indeed pointing at the router.

[scuzzb494]

Yeah it is strange...  can't believe I got it almost working on amitcp 2.0 but not on the others.

If this is an A1200 and a PCMCIA then you need to do the CardReset each time and put the card interface on line. I use MiamiDX to put the card on line and I use Samba to interact with the network I run a small script NMBD on my Workbench that I wrote to get the computer handshaking with other Windows based machines. This uses Samba

Genesis was easy to set up.. I have that also, but found Miami much easier to use. There is also a Samba Yahoo Group with some amazing Amiga network wizards on their... You have to wake them from their slumber, but does help.

As I say the trick is to put the interface online nothing will happen till you do that...

Tell you what.. I will go fire up Genesis and see how I set mine up for you. Back in two Amiga ticks.  PS I have the CardReset on the Workbench nothing will happen until I click it. Just look for the orange light on the network adaptor.


scuzz

[tasmanian guy]

If this is an A1200 and a PCMCIA then you need to do the CardReset each time and put the card interface on line. I use MiamiDX to put the card on line and I use Samba to interact with the network I run a small script NMBD on my Workbench that I wrote to get the computer handshaking with other Windows based machines. This uses Samba
 
Genesis was easy to set up.. I have that also, but found Miami much easier to use. There is also a Samba Yahoo Group with some amazing Amiga network wizards on their... You have to wake them from their slumber, but does help.
 
As I say the trick is to put the interface online nothing will happen till you do that...
 
Tell you what.. I will go fire up Genesis and see how I set mine up for you. Back in two Amiga ticks. PS I have the CardReset on the Workbench nothing will happen until I click it. Just look for the orange light on the network adaptor.
 
 
scuzz

Well I've just installed OS3.9 for testing purposes in WINUAE and will try it out, if it works out I will be purchasing the software if it does not work I'll go back to my legal copy of Workbench 3.1.
 
I'll be back in a few ticks and let you know how it goes in a real Amiga 1200.

[Karlos]

@tasmanian_guy

You said you were able to ping devices on your network but you just couldn't resolve external addresses, right?

Try changing your amitcp settings for name resolution and use your router's IP address. Works fine for me.

[scuzzb494]

OS 3.9.... Thats cheating....

Anyway first up you need to realise that to get various flavours of networks working you would need to have your other machines with fixed IP addresses and not set automatically. The post 98 Win machines did make this a tricky and annoying process. My XP machine sends out signals to the Amiga and sends the SCSI external into a tiss trying to resolve handshaking.. That machine is on Auto IP so it just gets confused about the Amiga. Thats why I have Win98 machines for storing Amiga data and link to those using Samba and running NMBD.

OK:

Next to get the A1200 to interact with the router and broadband I had to set the interface through Miami with DHCP ticked. Good and bad that. With that ticked you cannot see your fixed IP address on your network and you get an annoying message. That is why I set up two interfaces... One for my local network and one for the broadband and the router so I can use YAM mailer. Works a treat.

So to Genesis:

First up get two applications... SCOUT and SnoopDOS... Both are great for trouble shooting .

Fire up your CardRest Tool...

Genesis uses AmiTCP and from the Snoop..doggy..dog log you get loads of AmiTCP references...All pass OK on my machine
LIBS: Genesiskey.library
LIBS:OwnDevUnit.library
AmiTCP refs:
libs/genesis.library
db/passwd
db/utm.conf
libs/genesislogger
db/genesis.conf
AmiTCP.config
.......hosts, networks, services, protocols, reslove.conf,inet.access
and sockswrapper.conf.

plus Devs/inet-mountlist
and Devs/netinfo.device

Now I can't connect cus I have set the software to run a modem on dialup.
It will work with a modem connected.

I use Miami

I wouldn`t have given up. Dont know what A1200 you are running but OS3.9 can slow a base machine to a crawl. I still use 3.0 for my main Amiga.

PS I also had to run the software to set up the PCMCIA network card which is a NE2000 cnet.device and Env: Sana2 Not all these cards work by the way I have struggled with a number until I found one that would work.

scuzz
http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com

[tasmanian guy]

OS 3.9.... Thats cheating....
 
Anyway first up you need to realise that to get various flavours of networks working you would need to have your other machines with fixed IP addresses and not set automatically. The post 98 Win machines did make this a tricky and annoying process. My XP machine sends out signals to the Amiga and sends the SCSI external into a tiss trying to resolve handshaking.. That machine is on Auto IP so it just gets confused about the Amiga. Thats why I have Win98 machines for storing Amiga data and link to those using Samba and running NMBD.
 
OK:
 
Next to get the A1200 to interact with the router and broadband I had to set the interface through Miami with DHCP ticked. Good and bad that. With that ticked you cannot see your fixed IP address on your network and you get an annoying message. That is why I set up two interfaces... One for my local network and one for the broadband and the router so I can use YAM mailer. Works a treat.
 
So to Genesis:
 
First up get two applications... SCOUT and SnoopDOS... Both are great for trouble shooting .
 
Fire up your CardRest Tool...
 
Genesis uses AmiTCP and from the Snoop..doggy..dog log you get loads of AmiTCP references...All pass OK on my machine
LIBS: Genesiskey.library
LIBS:OwnDevUnit.library
AmiTCP refs:
libs/genesis.library
db/passwd
db/utm.conf
libs/genesislogger
db/genesis.conf
AmiTCP.config
.......hosts, networks, services, protocols, reslove.conf,inet.access
and sockswrapper.conf.
 
plus Devs/inet-mountlist
and Devs/netinfo.device
 
Now I can't connect cus I have set the software to run a modem on dialup.
It will work with a modem connected.
 
I use Miami
 
I wouldn`t have given up. Dont know what A1200 you are running but OS3.9 can slow a base machine to a crawl. I still use 3.0 for my main Amiga.
 
PS I also had to run the software to set up the PCMCIA network card which is a NE2000 cnet.device and Env: Sana2 Not all these cards work by the way I have struggled with a number until I found one that would work.
 
scuzz
http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com

Thanks for everyone's help, well I have discovered something going through this process.  
 
Yes I have cheated, but least I get to support the Amiga community by purchasing 3.9 which I'll do next pay.
 
It appears the pcmcia card adapter only works with the cable in a certain way, guess that is okay and has made configuring it up a bit of a nightmare because it could of been working the whole time, I'll look into more tomorrow I've had enough for today.
 
Having said that now, it is working under OS3.9  so YAY thanks for everyone with their help!  Phew!  
 
My Amiga is a 1200 rack mount system with 68030 50mhz, 50mhz fpu (blizzard 1230), 2 gigabyte cf, amigamaniac svhs, lcd monitor.
 
Aweb seems to ask alot about cookies, is there a way to automatically acccept cookies, it is driving me nuts without a mouse (for the moment).
 
Once again thanks everyone!

[scuzzb494]

Hi

OS3.9 manages to deal with many of the issues from 3.0 and 3.1 which you needed to manually set up. I discount 3.5 by the way. Trouble with 3.9 is that you pay with speed if you don`t have a system with better gear. I have 3.9 on an accelerated A1200 and I find it a pig. Too slow.

Anyway... good luck. I use my A1200 for mail only given the internet standards of bloat generate endless streams of images and scripts which slow down browsing. You need a good graphics card and loads of memory. I stay retro style but have advanced networking to PCs that do the grunt internet work and then simply take the loot to the Amiga for all the fun and games.

scuzz

[tasmanian guy]

Hi
 
OS3.9 manages to deal with many of the issues from 3.0 and 3.1 which you needed to manually set up. I discount 3.5 by the way. Trouble with 3.9 is that you pay with speed if you don`t have a system with better gear. I have 3.9 on an accelerated A1200 and I find it a pig. Too slow.
 
Anyway... good luck. I use my A1200 for mail only given the internet standards of bloat generate endless streams of images and scripts which slow down browsing. You need a good graphics card and loads of memory. I stay retro style but have advanced networking to PCs that do the grunt internet work and then simply take the loot to the Amiga for all the fun and games.
 
scuzz

Yeah the Amiga 1200 is not going to be my main pc, I just wanted to get it on the net to see what the experience was like and the learning experience.
 
It was fun and amazed I got amigaos3.9 installed in winuae faster than I got the Amiga on the internet :-)
 
Now to install whdload, kickstart files, and Amiga games back on (again).