More questions about AHI with my Delfina Card

[wildstar1063]

Ok,
I have the delfina.library 4.16b3p#2 installed, and am
 using Delfinit to initialize the card, and when it
 correctly initializes, the card plays great with
 AMPlifier. I still have not installed MHI to use with
 AmigaAMP yet.

In any case, the problem now is that that Delfinit does
 not always Init. the card correctly, and does something
 so that after it runs, no other program can be loaded,
 and I have to re-boot the computer. I have commented
 Delfinit out of the user-startup for now, because it only
 correctly inits. the card about 1 in 6 times I boot, the
 other 6 time the OS boots, but I cannot load any programs.
 and I just have to keep rebooting.

Currently I am using AHI 6.0 and an OS 3.9 install from the
Second Edition (Pink) OS 3.9 disk. No BoingBags installed
 and Delfinit 2.1, and it is the first entry in user-startup.

Would any of the command line switches in Delfinit help this
 situation?
 
Thanks

Wildstar1063

[Flashlab]

I have the Delfina Lite running with this:

- OS3.9 BB2
- delfina.library (4.16b3 patch 2)
- AHI 4.18
- DelfInit 2.1 in user-startup ("DelfInit QUIET")

In WBStartUp I have DelfTweak script that overclocks it to 60MHz.

That works fine. Only differences seem to be BB2 and AHI version. Maybe you could try AHI 4.18?

[pVC]

I also have DelfInit QUIET in user-startup (not the first). If you also have QUIET option, try to remove it and see if it prints out some errors or other info when failing?

Does delfinit work if you run it after OS has loaded?

I also have AHI 4.180 too.. but I think my Delfina worked fine with newer AHIs too when I still had them...

Btw. Delfmpeg is nice tool to test HW playback... but setting up delfinampeg.device for Amplifier or MHI for AmigaAmp are pretty easy too..

[wildstar1063]

 
I do have delfinampeg.device, setup in AMPlifier,
 and when I was using 4.18 AHI, I didn't get any
 sound at all, it was when I upgraded to 6.0 that
 the sound started working.

After the computer boots, without Delfinit in user
 startup, If I type it in manually, sometimes it
 works,and sometimes it does not return with the
 little status window you get when you dont use
 QUIET mode. When It does not return with the
 status window, is when no other program will
 load, and I have to restart the computer.

Maybe I need BB2 and to use the QUIET switch. I was
 also just reading in the Delfinit docs someting about
 using the NOPATCH switch if you have delfina.library
 version 4.14 or later. since this is 4.16, maybe
 is should use that switch option

Wildstar1063

 

[Matt_H]

I use the NOPATCH and QUIET arguments and it works well. I'm using AHI 6 and delfina.audio 4.09

[Flashlab]

@Matt_H

Where did you get the latest delfina.audio file?

[wildstar1063]

So where do I get delfina.audio 4.09? The version
command shows the one that came with the 6.0 archive
to be 4.07

I did see on the AHI site a beta ahi.device v6.7, has
 anyone used that?

Wildstar1063

[sandpiper]

@wildstar1063

My Delfina Flipper works very well with the following configuration:

delfina.audio: ver 4.6 -> note: this is the only file in my devs:ahi folder. Don't need paula audio with a delfina board

ahi.device: ver 4.18 (could be you have a mixture of ver 4.x and 6.x files?)

delfinampeg.device: ver 1.6

delfina.library: ver 4.16 B43

In my userstartup I have the command: Delfmem >nil:
(I did use DelfInit but removed it -> can't remember why now)

As stated before I use MHI with AmigaAMP. With MHI, AmigaAMP plays mp3s with virtually no cpu load (because it uses delfina dsp through delfinampeg.device). I don't use Amplifier.

This setup works very well with my system. You may want to give this a try with the Lite board.

My system:

A2500 w/ Blizzard 2060,PIV,WB3.9, 96MB Ram, X-Surf, Delfina Flipper,Subway,GVP IO etc

Hope this helps.

[wildstar1063]

MY Versions are:

delfina.audio = 4.07

delfina.library 4.16 Patch 2 (4.16 B43 locks up my system)

delfinampeg.device = 1.6

AHI.device is 6.6

I do intend to install AMigaAMP, with MHI, I just started
 with AMPlifier because it is easier to set up, you can
 enter delfinampeg.device right in to the mp3 hardware
 info without going through the MHI wrapper, and for setup
 I wanted as few layers as possible.

I don't think the AHI stuff, or the delfinaMpeg.device,
 would be the issue with my current lockup issue at
 initialization of the card. I woud think it would be
 something with delfinit, or delfina.library, or the
 hardware, as basicly all delfinit does is make a call
 through delfina.device to the card, to wake it up.

The following from the FAQ in the Delfinit.guide might
be relevent though, I just found it:
--------------------------------------------------------

Q: Delfina still causes Amiga to freeze despite of DelfInit. What can I do?
 A: You have a hardware problem and DelfInit can not help
 you on that. But there is something you can do.

    Delfina Lite and Delfina Plus:

These Delfina models might suffer from timing problems
 (especially if you have a A1200 ZORRO card). Try inserting
 the Delfina card in a different ZORRO slot.

Before inserting Delfina in a ZORRO slot, check that the
 card and the slot are clean and there is no oxidizing.
 Clean them if necessary. Press the card firmly into the
 slot but not too hard, so that you do not damage the
 motherboard or the ZORRO card.

Claim for a replacement Delfina from Petsoff. According to
 Finnish laws they are obliged to supply a working
 replacement or give you your money back.

Update your Amiga 1200's motherboard.
------------------------------------------------------

I dont have a 1200, but it seem to be saying this could be
with other machines too.

Maybe I need to try other slots.

Wildstar1063

[Matt_H]

@ Flashlab & others

delfina.audio 4.09 (15-Sept-99) is in an archive called Delf_User_4.15.lha which I managed to pull from http://www.petsoff.com via the Wayback Machine.

EDIT: Direct link.

[Matt_H]

@ wildstar1063

Try different slots. If you're using ahi.device 6.6, make sure you're using the rest of the AHI 6 files as well and not mixing and matching between v4 and v6 distributions.

If DelfInit continues to fail, try going back to Delfmem from the original Delfina installation.

[Flashlab]

Thanks Matt_H!