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Re: Any plans to increased the AmigaNG software?
« on: October 23, 2014, 02:12:48 PM »
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68k is by far the biggest part

That might be true, but how many of the people still 'using' m68k-amigaos belong to the target audience of a software developer?

Software development on 68k completely died down a decade ago. What was released after that is either a port of something maintained by outspoken PPC supporters (YAM, Wookiechat...) or written in AmiBlitz - which means that due to the limitations of the compiler, there'll always be a 68k built even if the developer doesn't care much about 68k (i.e. HD-Rec). As a platform for desktop users, 68k is in much worse shape than AmigaOS 4 or MorphOS. As in: "Even more dead".

A m68k port of AROS is nice for creating free/libre emulator distributions without depending on AInc. And it's a good gimmick for those people who collect, repair and polish old hardware and then want to have a shiny Workbench environment running on it that almost looks like it belongs to this century.

For everything else, m68k-AROS simply appeared way to late - which seems to be the common theme for AROS in general. If AROS would have been there when Amithlon took shape, the Amiga scene might look very different these days. But it wasn't, and now it's 2014.
 

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Re: Any plans to increased the AmigaNG software?
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2014, 04:26:54 PM »
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we just discuss what would benefit most of the interested parties involved in projects that all are inevitably doomed to fail.

Olaf is the one frequently using terms like "available software", "no. of systems", "size of target group" etc. I'm just saying he should lower his expectations. A lot.

There are two niche jobs for m68k-aros in the retro community, but there won't be anybody really using it for actual desktop computing. I'm not sure Olaf understands this.
 

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Re: Any plans to increased the AmigaNG software?
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2014, 07:28:22 PM »
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nevertheless if he advocates something, he must be allowed to a little enthusiastic about it. its not like he is charging people money for his work or trying to talk them into something.

Huh? My apologies if I came across as trying to shut him up or something. I simply disagree about where AROS will be going in the future, and was discussing that. I actually appreciate his efforts (and told him so in the past), because - amongst other things - they bring us closer to a free/libre Amiga environment for retro purposes.

I'm just saying what he said is dumb ;)
 

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Re: Any plans to increased the AmigaNG software?
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2014, 08:31:16 PM »
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huh?

Good lord... I'm joking.

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it doesnt mean on ng platforms it is any better.

I wasn't comparing m68k to NG platforms, I was just talking about m68k-aros. You can judge that without ever looking at any NG platform. Actually you should judge it without looking at NG platforms given that it's using a totally different approach and targetting totally different people - and that most NG approaches reached a dead end long ago.

"Yay, we got more software updates than Geos 64 this month!"

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what concerns aros none of us knows exactly where and which way it goes. when m68k platform has been undertaken it went full throttle ahead, now it is pretty still, doesnt even that say something?

Sorry, I don't get what you're trying to say?