Jens Shoenfeld's anwer to the Apollo petition

[Snoozy]

I've give you an explanation about some "older" games that refuses to work with the ACA accelerator. They just don't start or freezing while playing the game. This doesn't occur with my Blizzard or Apollo accelerators. Don't need further explanation.
So, I DO know what I'm talking about, and you're obviously NOT, since you don't even own an ACA. Don't make me laugh! You just come and barg in here, screaming and yelling. about stuff you don't even have experience with.
Now, move along and go somewhere else trolling!

I have an ACA card and the total number of games i have found incompatible on my 1200 2b are zero.
 
And i wouldn't touch an apollo card with a bargepole (I have a blizzard though)

[Snoozy]

What, not even the 100MHz Apollo1260 card which Cosmos has running perfectly stable?
http://www.leblogdecosmos.blogspot.co.uk/2011/09/68060100.html

I can think of a few games that aren't ACA compatible.... AB3D2TKG, Quake, Payback, Gloom Deluxe, Genetic Species, Doom, Breathless, TFX, Freespace and many more....

Sorry, did I say compatibe? I meant usable.

At the end of the day some Amiga owners demand real power, and that's where 040/060 Apollo and Blizzard's come into play. More so the Apollo because I believe that there are a lot more of those cards around (for better or for worse). Apollo's are also faster than Blizzard's. People can only work with what they have available to them.

The games you have mentioned there are irrelevant to aca cards - they were never designed to run those games and all of such games are better played on a proper retro pc where they were primarily developed. What's the point of scraping by on an (overheating) apollo card which is about to give up its magic smoke.

Also Apollo cards are usually the cheapest of all -£ for hz - (and lose more % value  more than any other card)

Purchasing (or defending) apollo cards is pretty much a lost cause and my support is to ACA and Jens

[Snoozy]

Snoozy's ACA is great for playing Superfrog, but the hard fact is that for running some of the big AGA demos on an A1200, I can say from experience that nothing is better than a properly tweaked Apollo 1260.
 
Blizzard: Best "all-rounder", best software (BlizKick), but neutered chipset access disappoints
Apollo: Best for demos, more work to setup
 
Now if Jens makes a better '060 card one of these days, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. :-)

Lets be clear about this: the ACA cards will run almost all normal 500 and 1200 software without a problem. There will not be intermittent crashes (apollo) or small fans squashed in to cool down the cheap components (apollo). I have no interest in some random demo's and gloom.
 
As Individual Computers have implied the best outcome for apollo's is to remove the 680x0 chip and put the rest of it in the bin :roflmao:

[Snoozy]

We all wish that, unfortunately never going to happen..
 
 
 
And I ask again have you ever run an Apollo board? To say to throw it in the bin is absolute rubbish (pun intended)

Ok i have never driven a hyundai/kia or skoda - but i know i don't want one. So no i have never had an apollo and i know i don't want one to upset my 1200.
 
And No you would take the 680x0 chip off first and then put it in the bin

[Snoozy]

So if Cosmos was to be so kind as to give you his Apollo1260/105MHz for free, then you would simply remove the CPU, then toss the card in the bin?
I've never heard so much crap as that.

Yes the best thing about the apollo cards is the cpu on them; as Individual Computers have documented the rest of the card is based on design error and functions on the basis of luck and possible compatibility with the mobo revision.

Arguing with apollo supporters is a bit like shadow boxing and i have neither the time nor inclination for further comment as i've made my view point known.

[Snoozy]

Probably a good idea, I doubt anyone cares since you've never even owned an Apollo 1260. On the other hand, Jens' comments are fully respectable considering his background and expertise. The fact is all those old accelerators had their compromises, you just decide what's most important for you and enjoy the experience.

So you make sweeping comments for all on amiga org?

And i have tended to treat your comments with the same level of disregard

[Snoozy]

No, the only person I was talking to was you. You haven't any experience whatsoever with the hardware in the topic. Yet, you feel confident enough to jump in here and smugly parrot someone who is an actual respectable expert (Jens), to the annoyance of people that likely have owned a dozen or more accelerators over the years. Cyberstorms, Blizzards, Apollos, you name it. Can you say toolbag.



LOL, I could really care less.

(yawn) Another dimwit out of reach of the facts.

And of course i'm going to comment on ACA cards since i own one (and a blizzard)

[Snoozy]

hmmm a few scenes later and apollo was dead

[Snoozy]

i thought the petition was dead and buried- next to the grave housing several expired apollo cards