New AmigaOS 4.1 Classic Users

[HammerD]

Thank you for posting that Nearly-Right...

@ Karlos

You see Karlos, those posts we exchanged in the past about my opinions/ views on OS4.0 were not just down to my own opinion of it, others have had the same bad experience of OS4.0 as I have had...

And you're comparing OS4.0 to 4.1 because?  For all intensive purposes it's a totally new product.  

It's running on the same hardware,yes, but with huge updates like PCI Radeon, SATA cards, Solo-1 Sound card, ZorRAM, DB 3128, disk paging, etc etc... all the AmigaOS 4.1, Update 1, and Update 2 features, plus you will get Update 3 and other things...

It's true the only 4.x OS on Classics you can compare it against is the 4.0 release, but IMHO it's a totally different product with huge differences from 4.0.  So it should be evaluated independently from 4.0, I think.

[HammerD]

Erm... dunno where you got that from... :confused:

I never said a word about comparing OS4.0 to OS4.1 here... :confused:

I just feel that people who had a bad experience with 4.0 are making assumptions that 4.1 will also be bad...they are saying "4.0 was bad, so why should I buy 4.1?" (implying it will also be bad).

I think it should be thought of separately from 4.0 totally...it's a totally new product starting with the kernel.

Ok I'll shut up now

[HammerD]

Can the mods please prune the garbage from this thread? (and preferably the site)...

Here are a couple pics of the sound card I'm working with.
Doesn't seem to work in OS4.1C

Can you get me the Device ID / Vendor ID from the Ranger utility?

It should show up in Ranger, if you can either give me the numbers or give me a screenshot of the PCI output from Ranger I may be able to get support added for it.

Thanks

[HammerD]

AmigaKit: Is Subway supported?
I've tried a couple flash drives and nothing happens when I plug them in.
There's not much in the USB prefs, other than some logging info. USBInspector shows nothing.

No USB would be a deal breaker for me using OS4.

It should work with Poseidon, but not the default OS4 USB stack.

[HammerD]

Thanks, I'll give Poseidon a try. Just the standard 3.x version right? Do I need to disable the OS4 stack or anything first?

You don't have to, but you could comment out the USBctrl starting from startup-sequence and comment out USB modules in the Kicklayout.  But it isn't necessary.

[HammerD]

@CSixx

Got it thanks, I've sent it off to the developer.  I'll let you know what he says.

[HammerD]

OK.

Got OS 4.1 Classic from AmigaKit (thank you) and the install was relatively painless with one exception - my Deneb.

I looked at some instructions here - http://www.hd-zone.com/2011/06/optimizing-poseidon-for-amigaos-4-1-classic/ and they say installing Poseidon 4.4 is straightforward and I can accept the defaults and have it start automatically.

Trouble is during the install I elect to start it automatically whereupon the installer generates a Grim Reaper exception. Tried three times and each time the result was the same. Tried again by saying 'no - don't start by default' and the installer went through fine.

Rebooted the Amiga - all OK so far. Installed Trident and got that to come up and added the Deneb manually. Mouse was detected (USB wireless) and it all started to work. Rebooted again and got a Poseidon error message at bootup but my mouse was working still. Attempting to start the Trident GUI also throws an exception now so I can't actually configure it - but my mouse is working.

System is as follows:

4000 with a Mediator 4000Di w/Radeon 9250 from Elbox
CyberStorm PPC 233MHz / 128MB RAM
Realtek RTL8139 NIC (works in 3.9, sadly not supported in 4.1)
Deneb
Indivision AGA
16GB CF card for HDD

and that's all..quite a basic system in terms of addon cards (limited by space )

Any help would be appreciated if you know what could be causing the problem. Can provide more specific error messages if required but the Miggie isn't with me as I'm writing this.

Thanks!

I have the exact same config pretty much, can you post more details on the error message? Is there a crashlog?  Make sure you are using the denebpio driver in the Trident prefs.

[HammerD]

No worries. I'll get the exact text of the Grim Reaper and post it here.

Where might I find the crash log? (sorry, not up to speed on this stuff sometimes)

When the Grim Reaper comes up there is an option to save the crashlog.

[HammerD]

Attached a screenshot of the Grim Reaper and the associated dump file.

Steps I performed are:

1. Install a fresh OS 4.1 (this takes a few installs to actually get a bootable install - 4/5 installs result in a system that hangs on the 4.1 Classic boot logo...waiting 5 minutes or so does nothing)

One I got a system again that would boot -

2. Installed Poseidon 4.4

3. Crash when electing to autostart the USB

And that's all I did. Nothing more. I may be doing something wrong or have something misconfigured not sure...only thing odd I could see was it crashed doing something with a Subway (driver??) in a 4000 :confused: Only other thing that may be of interest is that my clock isn't set in the 4000..it's 1978 where it lives :p

Any insight appreciated

Thank you sir!

DM

Yes, as AmigaKit says, delete the subway hardware driver in devs:usbhardware.

Also make sure it's not in your Deneb's flashrom - only the PIO and DMA Deneb drivers should be there (DMA if you are using it under 3.x as well, but it won't hurt OS4.1 if it's present).  It appears the Subway driver does, though.  

I can add that to my posting...when my site is back up :-/

Darren

[HammerD]

Thank you both for the support.

I'll get onto it again probably tomorrow evening and let you know how it all goes.

Ok great.  I've updated the article to mention not to install the Subway driver on an Amiga 4000.  

http://www.hd-zone.com/2011/06/optimizing-poseidon-for-amigaos-4-1-classic/

[HammerD]

Had a crack at it last night with your suggestions and she's all good.

Had to use the z2 driver as my Deneb is configured that way otherwise she won't boot into 3.9.

Thanks again guys

Good to hear Now it's time for you to create some screenshots and pix of your amiga setup