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Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« on: May 03, 2003, 07:13:32 PM »
@bbrv
Right, this is not strictly on-topic but topic subjects don't seem to bother anyone else so here goes...

1. Why don't Genesi get the "Amiga Certified" licence so they can run OS4 on the Pegasos?

2. Where can I find information on the Q-Box which I understand is the heart of MorphOS?

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Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2003, 07:35:58 PM »
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>>Why should a hardware company pay a third party (AInc) to be able to run another software companies (Hyperion) OS on their own hardware? You don't see MS paying Compaq so they can run Windows on a Proliant or whatever.

But Compaq don't own the Windows IP. Whether Hyperion have developed it or not, they are still using Amiga Incs property (the source code). Besides, we're talking about a market of a few thousand here (if that), not billions. Why should Amiga Inc let Genesi profit from OS4 for free when Eyetech presumably had to obtain a licence? And would Genesi provide support for OS4 on Pegasos or would A. Inc have to?

All i'm saying is that if OS4 is that important to Bill Buck/the MorphOS users - why not buy the bloody licence and put an end to it? Whether you agree with the licence issue or not it exists and its staying.

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Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2003, 07:46:27 PM »
>>Genesi doesn't own the AmigaOS IP. Bad example.

Okay, but comparing Compaq and Microsoft to Genesi and Amiga is like comparing apples to oranges!

Compaq = Hardware, Microsoft = Software.
Hardware+Software = Computer.

Compaq and Microsoft aren't in the same market and aren't competitors. Genesi and Amiga are.

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Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2003, 08:18:38 PM »
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mdma wrote:

Genesi's competition in the hardware market is Eyetech/MAI
Genesi's competition in OS market is Hyperion

In exactly what market do AInc compete against Genesi?
AInc sell PDA games written by other companies, and that is all they do.


Well, whatever. But the simple question was "Why not buy a licence?". Whether Genesi believe they should have to buy a licence or not doesn't come into it. If they want OS4 to run on a Pegasos, then they have to buy a licence.

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Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2003, 09:16:27 PM »
@Kronos
You seem to know the conditions of the OS4 licensing. Can you give a general overview here so I can understand why Genesi wouldn't want to obtain a licence?! Thanks.

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Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2003, 12:25:02 AM »
So there's NO q-box yet?! How is Morphos at release 1.0 then...?

When's the q-box going to be working then because it was my main interest in MorphOS?

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Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2003, 12:04:07 PM »
Hi Bill, could you answer my previous questions in this thread?

1. Why do you not want to get an AOS4 licence and put an end to this no AOS4 on Pegasos nonsense?

2. When is the Q-Box to be completed and what version of Morphos will include it?

And a new one:

3. When will the Trance JIT emulation for MorphOS be ready?

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Ian  :-D
 

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Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2003, 12:27:32 PM »
Heheh yeah - sorry about that! :-)

Post corrected!  :-D

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Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2003, 01:24:26 PM »
Thanks Bill. I'm glad at least one company can give a straightforward, honest answer.

So what is the current status of the Q-Box? Does it actually exist?

Thanks,

Ian