AmigaONE X5000 (A-Eon Technology Ltd on Facebook)

[nicholas]

   And the funny part is that many of the loudest complainers, are mos and aros fanboys. Who will never get os4.

 

Except that I'm a Hyperion customer who uses OS4. Other than that your analysis is spot on.

edit: Reading through this thread again, the people you are complaining about are neither MOS nor AROS fanboys, so what was your point again?

[nicholas]

That would be funny.  What would be even funnier is if someone actually produced the original Gateway Amino contract.   We might find out that Amino never OWNED the Amiga name and it was merely a nontransferable exclusive license.  I wonder where that would leave Aeon and Hyperion?

That would be hilarious!

I'd pay good money to see Herman's face when that happens.

[nicholas]

I've often thought that should Hyperion release OS4 for QEMU they'd sell quite a good few more licences.

It'd probably run faster on an i7 emulated than it does on an X1000, most certainly faster than a SAM.

Same goes for MorphOS before the church goers get their knickers in a twist.

[nicholas]

So why don't you stick with x86, AROS or WinUAE?

Let the rest of us enjoy good news about new hardware.

Perhaps it's because he's a potential customer and customer feedback is always good.

[nicholas]

Yes feedback is good, but when its unconstrutive like "I want a 70$ mobo with cpu" then it can't really be considered feedback.

Besides I hardly beleive that those who want a 70$ puter are potential customers, but I might be wrong.

I personally would love to run OS4 on Intel hardware. Emulated or native tbh.

[nicholas]

I'm not a potential customer.

I might have been 3,4 years ago, but the glacial speed of development of OS4, incomplete drivers and ridiculous hardware spec and prices have completely ruled that out.

In theory, I would have nothing against a nice OS4 machine, but it's price would have to reflect the fact that OS is archaic.

Well the question begs to be asked, why on earth do you visit Amiga sites and comment on threads regarding PPC hardware?

We all know it's a dead architecture and most of us would run OS4 or MOS on Intel hardware if it were possible (The latter being likely in the future) so other than "I'd buy your OS if you ported it to AMD64 ISA" what's the point in stating the obvious (That such hardware is faster and cheaper)?

[nicholas]

They're committed to the PowerPC now, Trevor/Amigakit have invested far too much money into PPC hardware for any x86 or ARM ports to be possible. The point of no return has been passed long ago.

I agree with you... money spent on hardware would have been much better spent(from my perspective, at least) getting OS4 ported to another ISA + bringing more SW on the platform. But it's too late now.

What you are forgetting is that OS4 belongs to neither Trevor nor AmigaKit.

If Hyperion one day decide to port OS4 to Intel hardware there is pretty much bugger all Trevor or AmigaKit can do except complain.

[nicholas]

Hermans was one of the original partners in A-eon that invested in X1000. I guess that there is no firm mechanism for trevor or Amigakit that could stop Hyperion from porting OS4 to x86, however without Trevor I very much doubt that Hyperion would have the money to do such a port.

True, but as I understand it there is no love lost between Hermans and Trevor so however slim the chance of an Intel port it's still a chance.

There's more chance of the Pope becoming a Hindu though.

[nicholas]

Well, Trevor should then hope to recoup his investments before that happens.
There might be a contingency plan for supporting MOS, if MOS is still developed for PPC by that time.

MOS is clearly the better solution so they'd be crazy not to fund its development for the X5000.

[nicholas]

yeah, but what incentive would a MOS user have to pay 3000$ for X5000 when G5 Macs are available for more than 10 times less? Doesn't compute...

The only benefit I can see to the MOS team is that certain vocal OS4 evangelists will no longer have the "no new hardware with warranty" stick to beat them with.

I'd rather use second hand hardware and buy a replacement when it fails until/if MOS gets ported to Intel than pay "remortgage the house" prices for new PPC hardware, but that's just me.

[nicholas]

Stick bearers will just find another.  If MorphOS is released on Sam and AmigaONE X1000 etc then it's fairly obvious that the new stick will be "MorphOS doesn't have it's own hardware so have to use ours".

True, though it would be quite comical if the X5000 was released with MorphOS first.

[nicholas]

Really?

I thought the commonly accepted stereotypes were:

OS4 users - Naive lamers
MorphOS users - Elitist snobs
AROS users - Tight fisted and cheap
Amiga users - Any of the above

[nicholas]

what concerns aros i think the stereotype is rather DIY and dont pay a cent.

In plain English, "Cheap". :lol:

[nicholas]

Has there ever been a thread on Amiga.org that stayed ontopic? lol

[nicholas]

Yes - lots of them.

None that have any replies in them though.