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Re: Can one suggest a wireless adapter for an AmigaOne?
« on: November 14, 2024, 09:47:34 AM »
I bought a new AmigaOne X5040 two months ago but a friend and an IT technician
have been unable to configure it to access the wi-fi network in my community through
the included Opal "wireless travel router".

So the travel router is effectively your home router? How have you tried to connect to it? When I Googled “opel wireless travel router”, the first device I found had Ethernet ports: did you try a wired connection to your AmigaOne, or is that impractical?

If you want your AmigaOne to use Wifi directly, the options are the PCI/PCI-E cards supported by the atheros5000.device and prism2.device drivers. It’s possible they support 802.1x through the WirelessManager software they use, which is based on wpa_supplicant.
 

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Re: Can one suggest a wireless adapter for an AmigaOne?
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2024, 06:16:26 PM »
I've tried connecting the travel router to the AmigaOne but it seems a lot
of configuration is needed to get it to connect to the Internet and the local
IT people are, of course, unfamiliar with Amiga OS4.1's options.

With a wired connection I assume? If the router does DHCP for connected devices, it shouldn’t be too much trouble to get working with OS4.
 

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Re: Can one suggest a wireless adapter for an AmigaOne?
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2024, 05:11:20 AM »
Connecting the Amiga directly to the wifi is no-go since the wifi is set up with 802.1x authentication, something the Amiga supplicants never supported.

Are you sure of this? On the one hand I've never tested 802.1x, but on the other I can't recall disabling it in WirelessManager. If it's complied in, maybe it will work with the right config file?

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Considering the error message when trying to connect via the mac, it seems that policy is set to not allow "tethering" wired devices behind an authenticated device. Depending on where this policy is implemented it may or may not be possible to use a wifi/ethernet "bridge" capable of 802.1x authentication.

So the Mac connects to the "central/upstream" router, but won't connect to the local travel router? What's the purpose of the travel router then if no connected clients are allowed to use the network?

@garyg You haven't confirmed if the travel router has Ethernet ports or its exact model, which may be useful in solving the problem :-)
 

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Re: Can one suggest a wireless adapter for an AmigaOne?
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2024, 07:58:26 PM »
@kolla Thanks for the detailed info. I haven't done any development involving AmiSSL, so it's very likely you're correct that there's no 802.1x support. The WirelessManager sources are available within the AROS sources under "workbench/network/WirelessManager".

I'm still not sure what's happening in the OP's environment. This page from the device docs only talks about regular WPA2-PSK: https://docs.gl-inet.com/router/en/4/interface_guide/wireless/

@garyg so you've tried connecting from the router's Ethernet port to your AmigaOne's built-in Ethernet port?
 

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Re: Can one suggest a wireless adapter for an AmigaOne?
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2024, 12:34:20 AM »
Assuming the AmigaOne is connected to the Opal router by an Ethernet cable, as a preliminary step to make sure your AmigaOne has a TCP/IP connection to the Opal, you can run this shell command:
ping 192.168.8.1

You'll then need to configure the Opal router through its web interface at http://192.168.8.1 - if this doesn't work on your Amiga browser, connect your Mac to the router and try it there.

From skimming the user guide, it seems you'll need to change the network mode to "Extender". See here: https://docs.gl-inet.com/router/en/4/interface_guide/network_mode/

After that you probably need to go to the Wireless section of the Opal's settings to enter your iPhone's personal hotspot details: https://docs.gl-inet.com/router/en/4/interface_guide/wireless/

 

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Re: Can one suggest a wireless adapter for an AmigaOne?
« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2024, 01:17:43 AM »
Do you get that error when you run "ping", or does it e.g. pop up when you boot?

For the Mac problem, the forum software here messed up the link. Instead of clicking on it, type it out again as I wrote it.
 

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Re: Can one suggest a wireless adapter for an AmigaOne?
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2024, 02:41:20 AM »
how do I "run ping" in OS4?

You run it in a shell window, like I wrote here:

Assuming the AmigaOne is connected to the Opal router by an Ethernet cable, as a preliminary step to make sure your AmigaOne has a TCP/IP connection to the Opal, you can run this shell command:
ping 192.168.8.1

BTW the "Could not add route" error may not be fatal, but it might be interesting to see what's on Line 6 of the file DEVS:Internet/routes.
 

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Re: Can one suggest a wireless adapter for an AmigaOne?
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2024, 11:36:44 PM »
If you're getting something like "PING 192.168.8.1 (192.168.8.1): 56 data bytes" and nothing afterwards, you're not getting an answer from the router.

The settings for your Amiga's Ethernet inerface should be in a file in DEVS:NetInterfaces: can you tell us what's in that file? If the router has a DHCP server and your interface file has configure=dhcp, you may get an address automatically. You can check the address of your interface and more by running this command: shownetstatus

Did you have any luck connecting your Mac to the router and accessing its web config?
 

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Re: Can one suggest a wireless adapter for an AmigaOne?
« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2024, 01:58:44 AM »
What does ShowNetStatus show?

You might want to move all but the first interface file to SYS:Storage/NetInterfaces (unless someone who knows more about the X5000 than me knows a reason why they're all necessary, but they may just be left over from multiple attempts to configure networking).
 

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Re: Can one suggest a wireless adapter for an AmigaOne?
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2024, 11:38:37 PM »
What about ShowNetStatus? I should have advised you to try that before ping in retrospect.
 

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Re: Can one suggest a wireless adapter for an AmigaOne?
« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2024, 02:30:04 AM »
Looking at the ShowNetStatus output, it looks like you received an IP address for your Amiga from the router's DHCP server. However, be careful that you're typing the right addresses: I notice some errors in the addresses you wrote. Maybe you got them right on the Amiga, but according to your post the address you pinged is wrong: instead of 198.16.8.1, it should be 192.168.0.1 192.168.8.1 [updated to correct my mistake]
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Re: Can one suggest a wireless adapter for an AmigaOne?
« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2024, 10:19:26 AM »
Apologies, I meant to say 192.168.8.1 is the correct address to try (192.168.0.1 is hardwired into my brain as it's probably the most common router address!).