Amiga Forever 2011.1 Released

[Franko]

@ Cloanto

I bought Amiga Forever 2008 just to try it out one my sisters PC (cos I don't own a PC and never will). Now I ain't knocking Amiga Forever as it's a really neat emulator but it's not for me as I only use real Amiga Hardware, which brings me to my point...

Why are the ROM images encrypted on the DVDs/CDs and why do you and all the other who claim to pay for distribution licences for the ROMs do so, don't you think it's high time that the ROM image files should be free to distribute for genuine Amiga users to use with their Blizzard boards etc...

All this nonsense over not being allowed to download Amiga ROM Images from numerous sites on the web is really one sad joke. I mean if your honest about it then claiming such sites are committing piracy by making the ROM images freely available is just nonsense when you consider that the vast majority of folk using your software will actually be using "pirated" ADFs downloaded from the web to use on Amiga Forever...

Reckon it's time yourself & all the other companies who cling onto the ROM images & their distribution stopped this nonsense and put the ROM images into the public domain instead of trying to make a quick buck from them...

Cheers

Franko

[Franko]

That's not up to us to decide. We, like others, just followed the rules to make Amiga Forever possible. I think the FAQ at amigaforever.com further covers this quite well:

http://www.amigaforever.com/kb/13-122

AROS is a free alternative, which we support too.

Mike

Already read that, while I understand you've got a product to sell (and a it's a very nice one) it doesn't help when you pay for a distribution licence that only encourages whomever actually still claims to own the rights to the ROM images to keep profiteering from them...

Your product would sell equally as well if you didn't include the ROM images and they were (which they are anyway) free to download on the net. I really think all this cloak and dagger stuff and folk not daring to mention where they can be downloaded from is really childish and just plain daft to be honest...

It's way past time we all put a stop to this nonsense which over the years has done more harm than good to the Amiga name and put the ROMs & Workbench in the public domain where they belong...

Until the ROMs or ROM images & Workbench disk sets are actually manufactured again and sold at a reasonable price and are easily available then (which I doubt they ever will be) then I say good luck to all the sites who make them freely available to download and are of use to those of us who can actually use them...

[Franko]

Support the Kickstart Replacement bounty and free them Roms, like Cloanto has $111

http://www.power2people.org/projects/profile/6

Odd... I don't see many names of those on this forum who harp on about how great AROS is contributing to the bounty... :rolleyes:

[Franko]

Perhaps they use AROS on x86, amd64, PPC or ARM based machines, therefore 68k has no use for them?

Or, like me, they never donate to bounties, prefer ring to donate directly to programmers whose work they appreciate?

Or perhaps they're just a bunch of skinflints who's mouths are bigger than their wallets... :lol:

Personally I wouldn't donate to a "bounty" myself, to me if your going to write something for the Amiga you should just go ahead and do it, there is no excuse for asking folk to donate money for something that may never even come to fruition...

If someone writes something for the Amiga they can do so and release it for free, if they want to make some money from it then via the magic of the web they can try and sell it to those who are willing to pay, bounties to me are  just simply something that shouldn't be allowed as at the end of the day writing a piece of code doesn't involve money...

[Franko]

Most of these bounties are to port software that is already free and open source and so can not be sold, like Timberwolf and besides who expect to pay for a web browser or JIT emulator when these things are free on the other platforms. Also if the developers did charge for it their might be out cry, example what if the Kickstart Replacement Rom had a small fee, people would be calling for it to be made free and may even go as far as piracy and post it on a site for free for other to get, not that expect you to do such a thing:roflmao:

While agree in part with some of the other things you said in your post, you couldn't be more wrong about me making the Kickstart Replacement Rom available on my site if it were to be released for a small fee...

My whole point about setting the ROMS free is quite simply because there is no easy way to purchase them legally anymore, other than buying Cloantos Amiga Forever, while it's a good product for those that need it, for those that don't need an emulator then it's not fair to have to purchase something you don't require and will never use in order to just get hold of the ROM images...

If the ROM images or the Replacement ROMs were available to purchase easily online by themselves at a fair price then I would gladly pay for them, but as long as this nonsense over licensing fees/copyright/IP and the stranglehold of a few greedy companies prevails in stopping the easy distribution of the ROM images then I shall continue to support and applaud sites that make them freely available...

I would apply the same arguments to the Workbench disk sets too...