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Offline Franko

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Re: Why no new hardware for MorphOS??
« on: January 28, 2011, 01:19:02 PM »
I see a lot of folk mentioning cheap Macs here, I don't call the 350 quid I paid a few months ago for this old iMacG5 cheap and you'll very rarely see one going for much less on ebay. So where do you all buy these cheap Macs ???

Im also led to believe that MorphOS can't even be used on the G5 (something to do with the GFX Card I think) which is a shame as I reckon anything must be better than Mac OSX 10.5 ... :(
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Re: Why no new hardware for MorphOS??
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2011, 01:37:16 PM »
Quote from: Piru;610157
MorphOS doesn't yet support PowerMac G5. The currently supported hardware is listed here: http://www.morphos-team.net/hardware.html


Thanks anyway Piru, You pointed me to that link before when I asked about the G4 I bought just before the G5 and the GFX card in my G4 isn't supported either... :(

(I must be buying the wrong type of iMacs...)
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Re: Why no new hardware for MorphOS??
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2011, 01:50:40 PM »
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I think all iMacs are wrong if you want to run MorphOS.

You need an eMac. http://shop.ebay.co.uk/i.html?_nkw=emac+1.25&_sacat=0&_odkw=emac+1.33&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313

Even those are cheap over in the UK.


Crap... those are cheap... :eek:

I've just spent well over £400 on ebay this week buying some spare VIC20s & C64s, I could have bought a bucket load of them Macs for that...

Methinks I'm gonna have to build a bigger house... :)
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Re: Why no new hardware for MorphOS??
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2011, 01:08:45 PM »
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Why did you buy it in the first place? Didn't you say that it's your second from Apple? I can think of worse things than the Leopard. You should try Windows xp or vista. YUK!

Or maybe you could do what i did and use Ubuntu :)


Yup it was the second one in the space of about two months, I only bought it cos the G4 played YouTube videos more like a slide show but the G5 plays them fine... :)

Windows... boak, main reason why I don't like PCs just can't stand Windows in any of it's releases... :)

Still only found one use for these Macs though and that's the net, everything else computing wise is best done on the Amiga... :)
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Re: The answer of Why no new hardware for MorphOS??
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2011, 02:57:59 PM »
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One of the reasons I prefer new hardware over old hardware is because of that odd smell. Especially if the previous owner was a smoker, the smell is disgusting.


An old C64 I bought on ebay this week reeks of a very strong perfume after it's been on for a few minutes... :(

Still now that I've thoroughly cleaned it, it wont be long until my 40 a day habit has it reeking like an old ashtray... lovely jubblly... :)
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Re: Why no new hardware for MorphOS??
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2011, 10:20:44 PM »
Hmm... finding this thread a wee bit confusing... :(

It's posted under "Amiga Hardware Issues & Discusions" but it mainly seems to be about MorphOS running on Macs, I admit I know very little about MorphOS but I'm kinda confused about where the Amiga fits into all of this or has A.org been taken over by a Mac forum... :)
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Re: Why no new hardware for MorphOS??
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2011, 10:27:28 PM »
@ Karlos

Can't you change the poll thingy so that in future it's not longer just an option to see who voted for what, that way the culprits will be exposed for being such rotters... :)

(ooops... this one's in the wrong place should've been in the  "Do you want AmigaONE X1000 project to fail?" thread...sorry... :)
« Last Edit: January 29, 2011, 10:32:47 PM by Franko »
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Re: Why no new hardware for MorphOS??
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2011, 10:28:28 PM »
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You must know by now that MorphOS is a PPC AmigaOS compatible OS that runs on PPC macs...


Nope... but I do now... :)
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Re: Why no new hardware for MorphOS??
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2011, 10:52:59 PM »
Quote from: zylesea;610705
MorphOS basically *is* an AmigaOS. It started a bit more than10 years ago to write an OS that is fully OS3.x compatible, shares the same API and logic touse.
There is exec, intuition, dos, mui and all that stuff under the hood. The disklayout is the same as under OS3.x (c, s, devs, libs, prefs, utilities, tools), the RAM disk works teh same. It is directly comaptible to non custom chip banging 68k software, as well as PowerUp software and WarpOS software.
It is written by many of those folks who actively kept Amiga alive when noone else was there in the later 90ies. The MorphOS-Team was in negotiation with Amiga Inc to make MorphOS the official AmigaOS4 but the conditions were unacceptable, so Hyperion later took this. MorphOS suported initially the P5 CyberstormPPC and BlizzardPPC (support for these cards ceased with teh 2.0 release), then the various Pegasos computers and the Efika5200B.
Recently MorphOS happen to support some Apple PowerPC gear. Maybe in future MorphOS will shift the supported ISA, but not too soon.
Is that Amiga enough?


Well it's the best explanation of MorphOS I've heard thanks, but I still don't get why this thread is mainly about it running on Macs unless it's giving you an Amiga emulation on a Mac, in that case MorphOS would be very interesting to me...:)
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Re: Why no new hardware for MorphOS??
« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2011, 11:29:14 PM »
Wow finally I understand what MorphOS can actually do and now it's very interesting indeed to me... :)

Looks like I'll need to head to eBay and buy another Mac to give this a try... :)

(Wish someone had explained it clearly before like you just have... :))

Cheers

Franko
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Re: Why no new hardware for MorphOS??
« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2011, 11:55:20 PM »
@ zylesea

Cheers once again, just downloaded the PDF and going to give it a read. You should write a basic introduction to MorphOS for numpties like me, I've learned more about it in your past few posts than I have in my whole time on the net since June of last year... :)
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Re: Why no new hardware for MorphOS??
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2011, 04:42:00 PM »
Quote from: JJ;611120
Franko if none of the the mac you own are supported, I believe you have a PPC card for your A1200.  THere is an older version of MorhpOS for free that will tun on this card.


Gotta admit buying the PPC board was a bit of a waste of time & money really, only use it for the Frodo C64 emulator and creating MP3s... :(

I'd prefer to keep my Amigas 68K based and look around ebay for a Mac that I can try MorphOS on to see what it's really like, won't be abandoning the miggies though, just curious to see what MorphOS can do... :)
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Re: Why no new hardware for MorphOS??
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2011, 12:55:38 PM »
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I just did: http://via.i-networx.de/wim.htm
A very brief introduction to MorphOS for ppl knowing the Commodore Amiga 68k. It's very briefrather simple put and probably oversimplified. It comes with a a few screenshots, too.


Thank you very much for that, much appreciated... :)

Just had a quick look and even I can understand it, going to read it in full now... :)

Cheers :pint:

Franko
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Re: Why no new hardware for MorphOS??
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2011, 01:15:33 PM »
@ zylesea

Well... even I understood that and things are a lot clearer now... :)

I reckon sometime in the next couple of weeks it'll be time to put these two macs I bought back on ebay and get my money back and buy a Mac that I can use with MorphOS, it would be nice to actually own a Mac that I can get some use out of other than just using it for browsing the net... :)

Once again, thank you... :)
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Re: Why no new hardware for MorphOS??
« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2011, 01:55:44 PM »
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Now that's kind of a silly question.

Old Amigas haven't dried up on the used market yet, and they're 20+ years old.  Lets do the math and figure out how many more G4 Macs were made than Amigas.  I figure they'll be around quite a while.


Gotta agree with that, having just spent the past week and a half on ebay there's still plenty old stuff out there if your daft enough to bid on them like me... :)

(even had a phone call from my bank last night as they thought some had stolen my details and had gone on spending spree... :))
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