The Future Of The Amiga - Where Do You Stand...

[Franko]

Yeah, I'd have to agree with that.

Nah... your both completely wrong... so I have to disagree with that...

[Franko]

Well, then you would be wrong... it really is that simple...

Yeah but on the other hand I could be right as well as simple... :p

[Franko]

I'm not going to dignify that with this response...

Couldn't hear you anyway I had me fingers in me ears...

(dignity... I lost that years ago... :lol:)

[Franko]

No "could be" about it.

Ok, I'll settle for 'maybe' but I doubt it...

[Franko]

Then again, it doesn't really matter if it works for you.

(I'm considering picking up an A1200 too, to actually have a real classic again, and get one of the new ACA accelerators for it, but I suspect sneaking the Replay and X1000 past the wife will be hard enough)

That is probably the most sensible thing I've ever read here...

(PS:Get a divorce it's well worth the money and you don't have to go sneaking things in the house anymore, it worked for me... :lol:)

[Franko]

@Franko

I stand on the side of choice.  We have many options available (Classic Amiga, many fine Amiga emulation products, MorphOS, OS4 and AROS).  I think that the future is full of possibilities if we will let them happen.

IMHO, the OS4 vs MorphOS ("red vs blue") struggle was a sad part of our history.  Now the fight for the "true Amiga" has grown to include AROS and Classic and any kind of emulation and PPC vs X86 vs XYZ.

I would like to see an end to the silly trolling and hostilities. Surely there is enough room for all of us.  I'm not saying that we have to agree or use the same system, but at least we should be able to tolerate each other.

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redfox

@ redfox

Ahh, there's that silly word again "trolling". A pointless word made up by internet geeks and used by those who haven't the maturity or brain power to cope with an exchange of opinions or who don't like what others have to say.

Kinda strange that you claim to "stand on the side of choice" but at the same time you express the view that you would like to see the end of "trolling and hostilities" which in my opinion are actually just different types of people simply expressing their choices and views. I would like to see the use of the word "trolling" as it's nothing more than a lame excuse used by certain people for the reasons I've explained above.

Of course there is room for all of us and no we don't have to agree with each other (it'd be a pretty damn boring world if we all agreed and did the same thing), yes we should tolerate each other but showing tolerance is not done by claiming you stand on the side of choice and then going on to say you would like to see the end of what other folk have to say or what their choices are. That my friend is not tolerance in any shape or form.

[Franko]

Exchange of opinions, eh? So how do you call someone who stops his car in the middle of the M8, gets out, does something obscene, and then gets back into the car, complaining about the noise of all the car-horns?

Yes, some people write what would be the equivalent comment. But maybe this is considered polite in livingston? ;-)

Well as I've not noticed such an event happening here on this site or experienced it in real life, I can't say what I'd call him...

And yes in Livingston this would be considered as nothing more than someone expressing their views...

But then some of us are more tolerant than others...

[Franko]

There is a clear difference between exchange of opinion and 'trolling'. Some people seem to have the idea that they can throw away all forms of politeness when discussing on an Internet forum. They even make it personal by using words like fanboy, nazi, smoking crack, ...

greets,
Staf.

While I don't myself use the terms you have mentioned It doesn't bother me when someone does, after all it's not like the person actually knows you personally or that it even matters what someone tapping away on a keyboard elsewhere in the world has to say about you, when they have no idea what your really like as a person.

It's nothing more than a passtime, if you choose to get involved in online conversations then you should take into account that everyone is different and what may offend one person may not offend another.

We all have the freedom of choice to ignore what someone else has to say or to take part and express our own individual view but at the end of day does it really matter what someone you probably don't know or will most likely never meet in real life has to say...

[Franko]

I apologize in advance for the insensitive nature of this quote but it is most fitting:

"Arguing on the internet is like running in the Special Olympics... Even if you win, you're still retarded."

Erm... not everyone in the Special Olympics is retarded, most only actually have physical disabilities...

So that statement while it might offend some, could easily fit into the retarded class...

But why does debating something when it comes to the Amiga have to be classed as arguing, that what I call retarded thinking...

[Franko]

@ motrucker

I reckon if you'd sold all your Amiga hardware you would be deeply regretting it by now. Like you I prefer the old OS 3.x the best, but I have developed an interest now in AROS & MorphOS but I can safely say they will never make me get rid of my Amiga's and they will definitely never become my main computer of choice when I finally get round to trying them out.

Even the X1000 or the Natami (unless the Natami lives up to it's hype) will never be able to replace my real Amiga's as to me they are simply the best computers ever produced for my needs.

[Franko]

The point Im trying to make is.. I'd love to be able to buy something thats completely compatible with amiga stuff, has a bit more oomph to it, is an actual machine rather than just UAE, and is new.

That just about sums up my point of view too on this subject, although I'd just like to add it would also most likely mean that we would be able to buy off the shelf peripherals (CD/DVD drives etc..) that we could also run easily on newer hardware if it ever comes to light...

@ redfox
You shouldn't apologise for anything, your perfectly entitled to say your point of view as was I in responding to it, but as you apologised (even though I don't think the apology was intended for me specifically) then I too apologise for being a bit harsh in my reply to your post...

@ the_leander
Have to disagree with you once again the silly "trolling" word was not used correctly, but then you'd know all about "trolling" wouldn't you... :rolleyes:

[Franko]

doing new software development is about the only real purpose I see to this.


What software exclusive to the Amiga are people really wanting to run on newer, more reliable hardware?   Im actually curious.  Because if its just to run internet crap, play mp3s, and fight the M$POWER, I don't see the point still.

For me the Amiga & games hold very little interest, I use it mainly for creating/editing GFX, creating/editing Audio & CDs , DTP, writing letters, burning CD/DVDs that kind of stuff...

So some new hardware that can run all the old utils that I enjoy a bit faster than my 060/PPC would be a great thing...

[Franko]

A good question. Might be a the basis for a new thread. What software would you like to see and how can new Amiga hardware set itself apart?

Well there was a poll recently about what software folk would like to see for the Amiga and a new Browser came out on top, so that ones been answered.

And this thread basically has folk expressing their views on which kind of hardware should be the future for the Amiga, so that seems to be covered as well...

[Franko]

Great Franko,
So we need FPGA hardware emulating an enhanced Amiga to run an enhanced  web browser like Firefox/Timberwolf?

That does it, I'm disregarding the opinions of other Amigans.

If I could work out what your trying to say their, then I could give you an answer... :confused: