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Re: A1200 boot problem - help!
« on: August 01, 2010, 10:55:46 PM »
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Am sure.  Also -- it VERY rarely does work.  It used to do this like 50% of the time.  Now it does it almost always.



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Hi blakespot sound's like to me if this 'not booting up problem' is occuring 50% of the time, that it could be your power supply not having enough juice or being on its way out. You should try disconnecting as many things as possible eg:- cd/dvd drives and trying booting up with the least amount of hardware to see if the system boot up easily.

If so then put back your extra hardware one at a time until the boot up problem reoccurs and if this is the case then you'll need a bigger power supply.

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Re: A1200 boot problem - help!
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2010, 03:48:03 AM »
It's looking more and more likely that your power supply is on the way out, have you tried removing as much hardware as possible, like I mentioned before and if you have, double check all socketed chips and connectors just in case somethings loose. :)
 

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Re: A1200 boot problem - help!
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2010, 04:07:26 AM »
It has just occurred to me that your using a similar set up to mine...

A1200 Blizzard060/PPC 60Mhz/240Mhz / 256 Meg Ram / 2 500Gb HD's /2 DVD burners / FASTATA MKII

I had forgoten that I too had the same problems as you (it was almost 5 years ago). When I first got the Blizzard board I tried it in one of my desktop A1200's. Same thing, sometimes worked sometimes didn't mostly a black screen. I desoldered the connector and fitted a new one (not an easy task).

Still had the same probs, Then I built a tower and stuffed everything in there. Now here's the thing, I used the power supply from one of my old A2000's, It worked but still quite randomly the black screen problems and such kept popping up.

I finally solved the problem by putting in a new bigger power supply and have never had any problem to this day (fingers crossed). If I recall the A1200 supply was around 200Watts, which you would think would be enough but with the new PSU I put in 350Watts the problem was solved.

It was all down to the -12Volts. On the old A2000 PSU it only gave out a max of -12V at .5amps (if i recall correctly) while on the new 350Watt PSU the -12V supply is 1.5Amps.

Like I said since then I have run the above setup and never seen the problem since.

Dunno why I didn't remember sooner, guess I must have managed to forget about it.

Cheers :drink:

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Re: A1200 boot problem - help!
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2010, 10:48:25 AM »
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99% towered amiga's problems are because powersuply.


Yup !!! 110% convinced it's the power supply (it solved my problems)... :)
 

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Re: A1200 boot problem - help!
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2010, 02:13:08 PM »
I was convinced that it was the PSU, I'll have to open up mine and see how I wired up the On/Off switch at the front of the case, I think it was just a simple case of the switch when grounding the purple wire from the PSU for on and leaving it open for off. Can't remember now, I'll have to open up the case and have a look. Just don't try this right now till I double check. :eek:
 

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Re: A1200 boot problem - help!
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2010, 02:22:33 PM »
Check here for connector Pinouts...

http://pinouts.ru/Power/atx_v2_pinout.shtml

DONT ground the purple wire that +5v...

The Pinouts on this Schematic and my own one use PIN 16 not 14 !!!
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Re: A1200 boot problem - help!
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2010, 03:17:18 PM »
Test the power supply without any connections made to the amiga, try just connecting the green wire straight to ground without the switch first, if the fan comes on and stays on then the PSU should be ok (no blown fuse). If this is the case then perhaps the switch your using is just a momentry switch (ie: non latching) or is faulty. Its always wise to check the PSU out first without conecting anything up first. If nothing happens open up the PSU and check the internal fuse, you might have blown it...
 

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Re: A1200 boot problem - help!
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2010, 04:47:58 PM »
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Test the power supply without any connections made to the amiga, try just connecting the green wire straight to ground without the switch first, if the fan comes on and stays on then the PSU should be ok (no blown fuse). If this is the case then perhaps the switch your using is just a momentry switch (ie: non latching) or is faulty. Its always wise to check the PSU out first without conecting anything up first. If nothing happens open up the PSU and check the internal fuse, you might have blown it...


Did you try this yet... to make sure the new power supply is ok... :)
 

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Re: A1200 boot problem - help!
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2010, 10:42:06 PM »
Hi blakespot, have you sorted the power supply problem yet and got things up and running.

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Re: A1200 boot problem - help!
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2010, 10:51:04 PM »
Hmm... I need a few moments to think about this one...
 

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Re: A1200 boot problem - help!
« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2010, 11:01:01 PM »
Hi blakespot... :)

We seem to be getting nowhere fast here, so I'll make you this offer, the choice is entirely yours but I am quite happy to do it if you wish.

If you would like to send me a personal message and give me your telephone number, it must be a landline and not a cell phone. Then I would be more than happy to call you as it doesn't cost me anything to call to the USA. If you wish to take me up on this offer make sure you include the international code for the USA as i have forgotten it. I reckon we might be able to sort out your problems if I can speak to you, rather than typing back & forth here with limited info.

Cheers :drink:

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Re: A1200 boot problem - help!
« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2010, 11:29:26 PM »
Sorry blakespot, but I don't think I can offer you any more advice here. If you wish to take me up on the offer of calling you then I would be only too happy to do so, but without knowing more about everything your trying to do there. I don't think I can be of much more help.

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Re: A1200 boot problem - help!
« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2010, 12:11:19 PM »
Hi blakespot

Had any luck yet...

Cheers

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Re: A1200 boot problem - help!
« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2010, 07:54:16 PM »
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OMG you won't believe what just happened.  Stay tuned.



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GOSH !!!!, Cant Wait... Tell Me More... :eek:

Just hope it's not another nightmare... :lol:
 

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Re: A1200 boot problem - help!
« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2010, 01:59:14 PM »
Wow blakespot... I thought I had some bad luck... :eek:

450Watts is more than enough. I don't know what the connector type is going to you motherboard, as when I built my tower I cut the end off an old A1200 power supply and wired it to the appropriate wires from the PSU. That way I can use the proper power input on the back of the A1200 MoBo and its also handy for when I have to test any other A1200 MoBo's.

If there is something blown on the mobo, there's now way I can even have a guess at it what might be, without checking it out with my meters & logic probes.

Anway you can check the mobo power connector from the board to the input pins with a meter, there might just be a broken wire or dry joint, especially with all the unpluging and repluging you have been doing.

Cheers :drink:

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