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Offline utri007

Re: NetSurf OS3.x Issues
« Reply #74 from previous page: March 02, 2016, 06:29:20 PM »
ShK got these problems.

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Installer doesn't work
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Requires usergroup.library

His install is clean OS3.9 with Genesis
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline utri007

Re: NetSurf OS3.x Issues
« Reply #75 on: March 02, 2016, 09:47:39 PM »
Spend some time to figuring out why my choices file is not readed. Location has changed, now it is users/default/choices

I have just reinstalled it to top of previous versions.

I also tried to run TLSFmem and it doesn't crash Netsurf anymore.

It has some effect to browsing with Netsurf, but it is not a solution. It seems to make Netsurf faster generally and slow down effect comes latter.
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline utri007

Re: NetSurf OS3.x Issues
« Reply #76 on: March 06, 2016, 06:25:31 PM »
Tested with WinUAE. Got whole bunch of weird errors. First I tested with 030 witout FPU. Goint to amiga.org made a guru, tested three times. Changed to cpu to 040, whole UAE crashed. Think that maybe I should document these and couldn't get any of them preproduced. Going to eab.abime.net made one recoverable alert and after that OS freezes. Restarted UAE. Tried to reproduce, didn't happen, but starting Netsurf after that made some weird errors more. It said Please instert Volume System and ENV?

Seems very random?

I will test with real amigas tomorrow or latter today.
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline utri007

Re: NetSurf OS3.x Issues
« Reply #77 on: March 07, 2016, 09:55:11 PM »
Tested with real amigas.

040/AGA is some 20-30% slower than it used to be. Slowdown problem is still there.
 
060/RTG is only slightly slower than it used to be. Nothing when compared to 040.

Forget to say, buttons does work. :)

Tested with TLSFmem and noticed that when slowdown happen, might be just luck. Amiga.org "fetching" time was five first times about 18.5 - 43 seconds and not that order. Untill it decided to spend some 230 seconds to render amiga.org's home page. Next time is displayed page quite fast, but it was still "fetching" some hundred seconds, nothing visible was happening, untill I press stop button.

Nothing weird didn't happen, no erros etc.
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline utri007

Re: NetSurf OS3.x Issues
« Reply #78 on: April 01, 2016, 07:58:24 PM »
Chris :

Tabs do work but they have some layout problems?
Sometimes when browser window is moved buttons doesn't refresh/show up again.
Prefs works just fine, but there is layout problem in screenmode page.
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline utri007

Re: NetSurf OS3.x Issues
« Reply #79 on: April 03, 2016, 10:18:54 AM »
Closing tabs has random problems, sometimes it works, sometimes it gives Netsurf error, sometimes it just crash.

Do you have any use those error codes?
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline utri007

Re: NetSurf OS3.x Issues
« Reply #80 on: April 16, 2016, 10:04:31 PM »
FFPrefs = Full palette http://aminet.net/package/util/wb/FullPalette22

I quest that Netsurf uses them if you open it to workbench screen.

FPU makes big difference to performance at least with 68040 CPU.

It seems that this version uses more memory than previous version used?
Tabs has problems closing and one new problem. Only half of second tab/page will be displayed. Is it because of Graphics card memory is ending?? Previous version could dispaly both amiga.org / amigaworld.net same time.
Memory fragmention is still there. Two first pages are rendered fast, third one uses 3x more time than should.
« Last Edit: April 16, 2016, 10:59:03 PM by utri007 »
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline utri007

Re: NetSurf OS3.x Issues
« Reply #81 on: April 17, 2016, 09:36:28 AM »
Why don't you test it yourself? Is it useable depends how you define it. Amiga.org renders 37 seconds with my 040/40mhz.
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline utri007

Re: NetSurf OS3.x Issues
« Reply #82 on: April 17, 2016, 06:49:30 PM »
To Do List :

Fix memory fragemtnion / slow down effect
Implement faster image loading and also dithering for AGA

Best / fasted solution would be if there are some patches wich could be used for this already. At least image loader has been done hundres of times already, so some of those should be possible to adapt this Project.
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline utri007

Re: NetSurf OS3.x Issues
« Reply #83 on: April 23, 2016, 06:09:58 PM »
Now it is possible to log on amiga.org/amigaworld.net :) Previous versions gave errors.
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline utri007

Re: NetSurf OS3.x Issues
« Reply #84 on: April 24, 2016, 07:03:56 PM »
Quote
ITYF????


Also amigaworld doesn't have that annoying Graphics problem any more, can remember what caused it? Alpha mask??

Interesteing unfortunately I can't test it today, need to get some people from harbour late this night. So I need to start driving soon.
« Last Edit: April 24, 2016, 07:09:42 PM by utri007 »
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline utri007

Re: NetSurf OS3.x Issues
« Reply #85 on: April 24, 2016, 08:46:56 PM »
Quote from: chris;807494
OK, I've put a new version up - this is an experimental guigfx.library one.
Rendering=>Cache Native Versions should be set to "All" for fastest image display.
Play with the dithering too: "Low" is really "None", "Medium" is EDD and "High" is Floyd-Steinberg.
Here it looks like it has converted to a palette of about four colours, which is horrible, but might just be me.
Anyway, I'm more interested in the performance, I'll fix the display later, as it isn't working properly on OS4 either.


Your site still offers 16th april  version?
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline utri007

Re: NetSurf OS3.x Issues
« Reply #86 on: April 25, 2016, 09:52:30 PM »
It must be in upload queue, as I can't found it. Aminet version is excat same than you site offres.
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline utri007

Re: NetSurf OS3.x Issues
« Reply #87 on: April 25, 2016, 11:25:54 PM »
It seems to be fast.

040/AGA loads amiga.org 29 sec
060/RTG loads amiga.org 19 sec

Cache native version seems to slow down 060/RTG, takes almost 10 seconds more to display amiga.org. It doesn't have any effect to scrolling either.

With 040/AGA it has huge difference fo scrolling and load time.

This one is most buggy and easy to get crash version so far :D resizing Windows etc is dangerous.

This version has still "slow down" effect. It slows down but load times doesn't grow exponentially any more. First two pages loads fast, but after that pages loads about 80-100 seconds, but load time doesn't seems to grow after that.

After quit, reboot is mandatory. Netsurf is slow after (program) restart without reboot.

I used that guigfx library from aminet, is it latest one (2005)? I could found newer one but it is for MUI.
« Last Edit: April 25, 2016, 11:30:39 PM by utri007 »
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline utri007

Re: NetSurf OS3.x Issues
« Reply #88 on: April 27, 2016, 08:31:21 PM »
Netsurf has been very stable here, no crashes.

Fast test today. Nothing about speed this time, as I just installed it and loaded few pages. Lets see if I have any energy left latter today.

Amiga.org's logo text amiga.org is red with AGA. No color problems with RTG.

Made some tests with iBrowse, it starts to display site faster, but over all loading time is quite near same.
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline utri007

Re: NetSurf OS3.x Issues
« Reply #89 on: April 27, 2016, 09:40:08 PM »
OK tested more. I thing that speed is little bit degraded, not much, it is still faster than version wich uses picture.datatype.

Memory usage is about same, no noticeable diffrence. Speed is still a problem after few pages.

How about this : I noticed that amigaworld.net uses much less memory than amiga.org. Netsurf freed memory nicely. Wich made me thing IF Netsurf would load empty page always before new "real page", it would terminate memory fragmetnion? Loading empty page wouldn't take too much time, but memory would have big contionous free block? This would be very stupid question and if it would work it would be very unsophisticated solution
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD