NetSurf OS3.x Issues

[utri007]

I'm a curious what is changed this new version?

Is it so that aminet release link is wrong, it goes here, it says OS4 version : http://www.netsurf-browser.org/downloads/amiga/

[utri007]

New typo All the downloads are gone in netsurf page.

[utri007]

Tested.

You really have put some effort to AGA. It is possible that with AGA slow down is gone.
060/RTG is faster when going to amiga.org frontpage, but going to forums takes 119 seconds. With 040/AGA going to forums takes 59 seconds..!

Problem is, that after that AmiTCP is dead both of my amigas (tested several times). GUI says that it is online, but I can't ping gateway, etc. So question is, does Genesis GUI really know state of AMITCP if so it must be just a prism2.device?

Would be really nice to know does it kill anyothers TCP stack, with other real amiga users. There is no slow down or dead TCP in UAE.

[utri007]

It is important that we do not confuse each other:
This version of Netsurf for OS3 you mentioned was provided by Artur Jarosik and unfortunately is named the same as the version provided by Chris Young. As I understand it, Chris' version has a Reaction-based GUI and uses a native Amiga toolkit, while Jarosik's port prtly requires ixemul - but he also has released a non-ixemul version.

Chris' version is based desktop version of Netsurf, it's builds against official source tree.  It requires just a 11mb free ram to start, so it is useable with 32mb ram. Chris' version also supports Netsurf themes, like Firefox theme, just to mention one.

Arthur's version is based SDL/ Framebuffer version of Netsurf.

[utri007]

Chris version has some benefits. It uses much less memory, so it is useable with 32mb ram. Surprisingly it is more stable than Arthur version with real Amiga. Even if it freeses, it doesn't lock OS.

I'm not a big fan of emulators, so I was quite surpriced how well Arthur's fork performs under emulation. Considering that with real harware diffrence is not a big.

Main problem is slow down when surfing, every new page takes at lest 2x time than previous. Some builds kills TCP/IP  stack at some point, tested with Genesis(AmiTCP), Miami and Roadshow. AmiTCP things that it is online all the time, so it can be a device driver wich dies?

It doesn't seem to be memory fragmention, as I have all the time lots of free ram. biggest continous blog is about 30mb all the time.

It also made some AmiTCP errors about memery usage and buffers. There is preferences for them max memory usage of AmiTCP is just 256kb.

[utri007]

It doesn't fix problem. It also makes it slower, amiga.org FrontPage 89 seconds, forums 248 seconds. After that timeout and AmiTCP is dead.

[utri007]

OK I can't test this with 3 different Network stacks. Maybe I could rip some sites, so that I could test without TCP stack. I have already tested this with plain html pages, from CU Amiga cds, no slow down. By the  way, this site doesn't have slow down at all http://www.amigahistory.co.uk/ it is also plain html, no css etc.

[utri007]

Do you know who is solving those problems? Maybe Chris could save some time to asking what he/she has found.

There are problems to log on to this site, some times it works, some times it doesn't.

[utri007]

Poolmem has been removed from startup-sequence when we first talk abou it.

[utri007]

Spend some time testing.

I started to configuring Roadshow.

Good news is that RoadShow doesn't die, even if Netsurf gives time out error. I can't still ping gw and mount a samba share. I could test longer period of time, so this was more meaning full than testing with Genesis/AmiTCP

My 040/AGA started to give time out errors earlier than my 060/RTG


About slow down effect. This version is slow as snail, but I could surf more with RoadShow than with AmiTCP. Memory allocator migh have a reason for slow down, downloading amiga.org forums/frontpage took about same amount of time every time. I this version renders page about 3x longer than prevoius version. So "normal" time to render amiga.org front page is about 90 seconds, forums renders about 140 seconds and I could test that about 6 times before I got time out error.

This version has some random weirdness. Suddenly it just started to display pictures with wrong colors. Opening own screen, like it would not read settings, no matter what put choises file or even if it is empty. Or what you have put to defaults??

AGA seems to be faster than RTG? Everything tooks about same amout of time wit 040 / AGA than 060 /RTG

Difficult to trying explain this english. Hope you understand.

[utri007]

I'll spend this evening with beer and friends, so tomorrow evening is next test time for me.

[utri007]

Chris version should work every amiga
 with aga and enoug memory.

[utri007]

Tested

Install script doesn't work, it says it requires OS4 system.

First this one seems to be fast, with my 060 it loads amiga.org front page 18sec and with 040 takes 25 sec.

Sounds very useable at this point, but ...

Second page (amiga.org forums) loads also fast, but third page (amiga.org front page) loads 88 seconds and fourth page (forums) gives time out and this time RoadShow dies.

Just to note, when I installed / configured roadshow I put 8x more buffres than default. Default is 32, now there is 256 buffers. I did that test AmiTCP also, but I ques current install has only 32 buffers. This made noticeable diffrence with AmiTCP.

There is something wrong in my users/choises file on my 060 amiga. Netsurf doesn't load it and displays wrong colors, need to test that more.

[utri007]

Made testing with WinUAE, results were quite impressive.

First, it starts but freeses if CPU is not set to 68040, no matter is FPU enabled or not.

It is very fast and no slow down at least noticeable. All the pages loads less than 5 seconds.

I got one error after I log on to this site and cliked quick reply button :

Assertion of condition

"perror == PARSEUTIL_OK"
failed in line "utils/utf8.c", line 135.

[utri007]

More testing with real amiga.

user/choises file is not read anymore. So I can't enable friend_bitmap.

Amigahistory.co.uk doesn't cause any slow down, Spend quite many minits surfing that site, every page was displayed at lest 3 times. It is plain html page.

[utri007]

ShK got these problems.

http://s7.postimg.org/3p3mrss3v/003.png
Installer doesn't work
http://s7.postimg.org/434yrec7f/004.png
Requires usergroup.library

His install is clean OS3.9 with Genesis