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Offline utri007Topic starter

Netsurf 68k
« on: December 14, 2010, 09:01:22 PM »
Netsurf for 68k amigas looks promising.

Will there be new versions of it? And will it be amigized? I mean prober amiga gui, mui maybe?

SDL is big problem with our beloved 68k cpu, so ....

RiscOs version runs quite well lowend computers, compared to 030 with 16mb ram, when AmigaOs version requires 060 and 64mb memory to be near usable.

Netsurf is best possibility to get "modern" web browser for 68k amigas. I really wonder why you guys are not more interested about it?
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline utri007Topic starter

Re: Netsurf 68k
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2010, 12:38:49 PM »
You are right.

But apps like netsurf would benefit classic amiga community for long time, if somebody could pay some attention to make optimized port with proper gui.

Netsurf is our only realistic change to get modern web browser. All others would be useless at least with real amigas OWB/Firefox etc.

Allso Netsurf would benefit projects like natami, offering more modern apps to their product
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline utri007Topic starter

Re: Netsurf 68k
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2010, 08:21:30 AM »
Native Netsurf should be fast. RiscOS requirements are 30MHz ARM 6 computer with 16MB of RAM, so I could imagine it would run 030 with 16mb ram.

I belive that itix has made some progres with this? Maybe he could help?
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline utri007Topic starter

Re: Netsurf 68k
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2010, 09:42:07 PM »
Netsurf is our ONLY possible/realistic solution to get semi modern browser for 68k amigas, wich is fast and works quite low spec amigas.

Aweb would be hard, it would need quite much work, new html/css engine writen from scrats...
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline utri007Topic starter

Re: Netsurf 68k
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2010, 09:05:48 PM »
Is netsurf for OS4 SDL based, or is it reaction/mui? OWB is and will be useless for real amigas
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline utri007Topic starter

Re: Netsurf 68k
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2010, 02:39:59 PM »
That is not a official aweb support page, official page is gone for long time ago. Developer files and lates sources are allso gone???

We have such a tiny community that OWB port for UEA use wouldn't be good thing, it woun't benefit real amiga users.
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline utri007Topic starter

Re: Netsurf 68k
« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2010, 08:39:15 PM »
What a about AWeb?? I woun't use it, ibrowse is far better, but none of them doesn't have css supoort wich is essential now a days.

Netsurf shows quite lot web pages right, like amiga.org, amigaworld.net ie.. aweb/ibrowse doesn't

OWB port for UEA use is not good thing, because IF we get semi modern browser for 68k amigas, it is most like just one, not netsurf and OWB.
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline utri007Topic starter

Re: Netsurf 68k
« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2010, 10:57:39 PM »
Screenshot is old...

http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=14023&forum=2#199290

Amiga 4000 boot trouble thread from amigaworld, 5 years ago. I belive they have made changes after that, very same reason as an amigans.net was forced to change.

When you visited here with AWeb last time? ;)
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline utri007Topic starter

Re: Netsurf 68k
« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2010, 06:39:07 PM »
wawrzon: Great :) if you get stuck, remember that here are lot of coders that enjoy to help :) not me
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline utri007Topic starter

Re: Netsurf 68k
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2011, 09:30:24 PM »
Any news about this?
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline utri007Topic starter

Re: Netsurf 68k
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2011, 04:53:58 PM »
Hope you get  help.

Good/working web browser is important, so there should be plenty of helppers
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline utri007Topic starter

Re: Netsurf 68k
« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2011, 09:26:32 AM »
It would be geat to have good text only browser for low end classic amigas.

Hopefully we get native Netsurf for high end classic amigas also.
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline utri007Topic starter

Re: Netsurf 68k
« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2011, 07:30:55 PM »
fishy_fiz : Could you pay some attention to Netsurf also? It should be quite easy now, all debensies are already done and OS4 sources are made keeping mind that somebody might want to backport it OS3.

Sorry that this is repeating, but I'm not a coder myself and I'm keeping to hope that Netsurf could made 68k amigas more capable for dayli use? I'm realistic that it wount be general surf solution, but it would be cool to surf amiga sites with amiga.

SDL front end is not too far from it.
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD