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Re: Offline User Friendly Linux Distro with Updated Wine?
« on: March 12, 2013, 03:52:41 PM »
I use Crunch Bang. Very lightweight using openbox and thunar. Uses Debian stable and so far, in the 6 months i have been using it, no issues at all.



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Re: Offline User Friendly Linux Distro with Updated Wine?
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2013, 09:55:03 PM »
Linux is not for everyone. But it can be made as easy or as hard as needed. Ubuntu and by proxy mint are the easiest because that's what they are aiming to do. Both can have additional drivers loaded into them by using the additional hardware option. Updates roll in at a more regular basis too. And if you are after a more 'windows' experience then it's easy to install kde. Software can be installed via the software installer store or by the apt-get install command from terminal.

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Re: Offline User Friendly Linux Distro with Updated Wine?
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2013, 08:48:31 AM »
Crunch bang has a pretty extensive wiki. Plus their user community is friendly. But it comes with enough drivers to get it working on a fresh install. Only things I tend to do is install the nvidia drivers which is shown on their wiki. Also there is a script which runs on first startup that downloads stuff.

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Re: Offline User Friendly Linux Distro with Updated Wine?
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2013, 04:03:45 AM »
My tutor at college told me to love the command line and always to love the command line. And to this day I install everything via command line lol. There is rarely a day goes by I am not using SUDO for something. Usually along the lines of sudo apt-get install lol.
 
I am sad that Crunch Bang didn't work out for you :( I would be interested to know more about what went wrong for you. Also did you use the official stable release or did you grab the testing waldorf release?
 
Waldorf did have loads of bugs when I used it but thats the nature of testing releases.
 
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oops looks like Waldorf was promoted to default download. While it's stable(ish) it's running Debian Wheezy which is debian testing. You will need Statler which is the stable release and prefferably with BPO (backports) which contains newer stable software.
 
http://crunchbang.org/download/statler
 
But then again given your previous attempts with Linux you might not want to go near another Linux box again lol. Also on a side note the new Fedora release has come out. This is another Debian based system but uses Gnome 3 or KDE. I put it on a friends netbook and it liked it.
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Re: Offline User Friendly Linux Distro with Updated Wine?
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2013, 09:55:50 AM »
Linux isn't complicated once you get past some of the hurdles such as driver support. I often find it easier to preform minor to every day computer tasks in linux than I do in Windows these days. Even Major to complex tasks I can do relativity easier. Such as monitoring and maintaining networked systems and external drives.

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Re: Offline User Friendly Linux Distro with Updated Wine?
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2013, 08:09:50 PM »
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Fedora - Debian based?  Er...


Forgiveth me I did mean red hat. A 14 hour shift does make one a bit dopy.:laugh1:

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How so?

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Re: Offline User Friendly Linux Distro with Updated Wine?
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2013, 01:25:53 AM »
I did try AEROS once upon a time. Found it to be a good comprimise.
 
Also ElPolloDiabl I have had no issues with the HDD settings and installing Linux.

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Re: Offline User Friendly Linux Distro with Updated Wine?
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2013, 01:04:10 AM »
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A lot of Linux guys seems to fall in that category. Present party excluded cause they also have a lot for the more artistic and experimental OS's. :)
 
Said Linux distros are trying to hard to appeal to the Windows crowd. If you want to appeal to the Windows crowd you need to write an OS that not only has a Start Bar, but also invades your privacy, must remind you often that it is busy thinking, and...
 
...well just don't work quite as stable as a Linux environment.

Sounds like the latest Ubuntu lol. If you look back over recent years there has been a massive push to make the whole experience more user friendly. And yes it is to attract more of the Windows users that just want things to work. More and more generic drivers, which a lot of major manufacturers use in their products, are built into the kernel. I remember when wifi was still a new tech how much of a pain in the arse it was to get USB dongles to work. Now most work straight out of the box because they all use generic chipsets. Same applies to webcams, sound cards and a whole host of stuff. (On a side note I also remember when the do it yourself ADSL kits, 512kbs, came out in the UK and the sodding modem would not work with my rig at the time and I had to wait till I could get my old V92 modem back to download a random hack to make it work. Even then it was hit and miss. :anger:)
 
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OK, to say something positive about Windows that I can't say about Linux, at least I can "generally" install my drivers without issues "generally". Likewise, if I want to run something all I have to do is download it and install it, I don't have to download "X" amount of Mb worth of dependencies just to make it work, which sometimes becomes the case with Linux. Too many dependencies, too many files that need constantly updated and this and that. At least that was my experience when I used to keep it around all the time. Maybe with AEROS I will not have to worry about that crap as much cause I just want to set up WINE and I am using AROS as my GUI instead of some Start Bar based KDE variant or what ever.

Again drivers for most generic chipsets are built into modern kernels. I have run into very few items that I have needed specific drivers for except my Nvidia card. But in Ubuntu there is a dialog that opens wich downloads a choice of stable or testing drivers. Also in Ubuntu there is a pack of stuff called restricted extras which you can dowload that adds more support. It's got a set of goodies that doesn't exactly fall into the realm of open source so it can't be given as standard with Ubuntu, though other distributions tend to stick them in anyway.
 
As for dependencies then the package manager should resolve dependency issues for you automatically. If your trying to compile source yourself then yes you need to be aware of the dependencies more. But it's like any new install of any new OS it takes time to get things up and running. Windows will generally need to download c++ or .NET libraries in order to get games to run or certain bits of software. Once the dependencies are there then you no longer need to worry. Most share common dependencies so it's all good. And if the dependencies aren't needed after software removal then the package manager will even handle that for you.
 
And really most Linux distros come with the KDE/Gnome setup because they are the popular ones. But there are some great window managers out there and I don't use KDE or Gnome these days.
 
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Of course again, the down side to Windows is it sucks. It is boring to use, and the history behind the success of the company behind it relies heavily upon the shattered dreams of others.

Can't argue with you there lol. but Windows is a bit of a nessesary evil if your into gaming. Until Valve get their act together and get more developers onto Linux we are going to be stuck. Since Steam went public on Linux more games have started to turn up.