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Re: Why no new hardware for MorphOS??
« on: January 28, 2011, 01:01:25 PM »
all this hardware is old and used without any sort of warranty..

Who cares if it is dirt cheap? One fails, you buy another. On the other hand, this hardware is of high quality and risk of failure is low.

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Re: The answer of Why no new hardware for MorphOS??
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2011, 02:21:21 PM »
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Custom hardware in the Amiga Community was developed without any prior income - reference - Minimig, AmigaOne X1000.


1. You can't run MorphOS on a MiniMig-class device (< 50 MHz CPU, < 8 MB of RAM).
2. AmigaOne was not developed - it was just a slightly modified Teron mobo.
3. X1000 does not exist as a sellable product yet. Also Trevor Dickinson cash may be considered a "prior income".

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There is no proof on the Internet, neither at any of the recent Amiga shows, to believe there will be new hardware running MorphOS. Of course nothing stops MorphOS being ported to new hardware


So why are you so sure then?

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Re: The answer of Why no new hardware for MorphOS??
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2011, 02:50:38 PM »
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Bad for MorphOS. Less potential customers. I am going to buy C-One with MiniMig extender module. I will not miss MorphOS though, but if it was running I would give it a try.


You should buy some Pentium 3 machine and after learning that Windows 7 does not run on it, state "Bad for Windows 7. Less potential customers". The same level of reasoning.

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You can't run AmigaOS on Teron mobo. There are Amiga developments on the AmigaOne board.


Yes, modifying some bits in EEPROM chip and checking them at system startup is the biggest "Amiga development" on this board.

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Sam 460 exists. The income from the sales of the Sam 440 were used for the development and marketing of the Sam 460 and AmigaOS 4.1. The AmigaOne X1000 was shown running AmigaOS 4.1.  The sales of AmigaOS 4.1 helped Hyperion go to the exhibitions and show the machine running AmigaOS 4.1.


How it is related to your previous list of "Amiga custom hardware developed without a prior income"?

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MorphOS still does not work good on Mac laptops


Much better than AmigaOS 4 on X1000 prototype.

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Are you saying that MorphOS runs on some unknown, brand new hardware, that the developers are not willing to share about? Come on.


No. But if "nothing stops MorphOS to be ported to new hardware" (your words), you can't predict that it will never happen in the future.

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Re: The answer of Why no new hardware for MorphOS??
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2011, 03:01:46 PM »
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The other difference was that AmigaOne was available for purchase in single quantities for end customers. Can you say the same for the Terons?


But it hardly can be defined as "Amiga development to the board". At least not one requiring some prior income comparable to cost of developing a new hardware.

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Not on mine. So far you can not say that MorphOS runs on PowerBooks G4, because it does not.


Your Power Book is not the only one in the world. What if I state that Power Mac model I own, is unable to run MacOS? I have no MacOS installed on my HDD, so I can't run it here. There is some difference between "There is no public version of MorphOS running on PowerBook" and your claims.

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MorphOS does not run on my PowerBook. MorphOS does not run on Mac PowerBooks, period.


I've worked in MorphOS on such a PowerBook for a few hours. What now?

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Re: The answer of Why no new hardware for MorphOS??
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2011, 08:15:03 PM »
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MorphOS does not work on PowerBooks, period.


And a few lines later...

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-Then you make a statement - it works on Powerbook!
So he trusts you and downloads MorphOS, only to find that it does not work on his Powerbook.  I would prefer to avoid situations as such, where I will be taken as liar. But when you say - MorphOS runs on Mac Powerbooks - you will be a liar.


Note that when we take into account your first statement cited above and apply your logic of "one case falsifying all other cases", you are a liar now...

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Re: The answer of Why no new hardware for MorphOS??
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2011, 08:35:17 PM »
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I say it again.

You may say it again a hundred times. It will not add a tiny bit of truth to it however.

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MorphOS works on very narrow range of PowerBook models with specific video chips inside. MorphOS does not work on PowerBooks, period.

"Only a few people have been to the Moon. The Moon is unreachable for mankind. Period." - this analogy shows your logic at work.

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Re: The answer of Why no new hardware for MorphOS??
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2011, 08:49:01 PM »
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Cool. I will buy Powermac. It will run MorphOS!


So you have decided to use such primitive tricks as cutting statements fragments to support your lack of logical reasoning? Do you really think that noone will notice a difference between "Any Powermac G4 Tower with ATI graphics" and your manipulated "Any Powermac"? Simply pathetic.