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Re: Speed rankings of Next Gen hardware
« on: August 02, 2013, 11:07:36 PM »
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The fastest Amiga currently available is the PowerMac G5 2.7GHz Dual Processor machine running MorphOS 3.2.

TRue in raw CPU power. In disk, memory and graphics, X1000 is still first, SAM 460 second, then G4 CPUs (amongst OS4 systems).
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Re: Speed rankings of Next Gen hardware
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2013, 11:17:04 PM »
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I feel a challenge ahead! :)

When you get your X1000 install a fresh Debian and run a benchmark of your choice.

I'll do the same with the G5 and compare.

It will come with Ubuntu. Current tests show that X1000 is faster then G4 in cache and memory (and in real time copy files). How worse or better then G5 is hard to determine, as it wasn`t included in current tests.
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Re: Speed rankings of Next Gen hardware
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2013, 03:51:38 PM »
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What else are they going to talk about?  If they start comparing it to AROS hardware or MOS hardware, reality starts to bite in on why AOS4 is boxed in and no where to turn to.  Gangrene set in long ago and a fresh bandage change will make no difference as the smell overtakes the discussion.

You are allowed to think whatever you like of SAM boards, but most of customers are pleased with ACube. Plus beside expensive X1000 there are no PPC boards in production now.

Surely, everyone can get used Pegs, old AmigaOnes or PPC Macs, but they are selling more just because people tend to get high end systems like X1000 or G5 Mac.

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We could run this on each machine tested to see the strength and weaknesses of each machine.

http://www.phoronix-test-suite.com/?k=downloads

Agreed. Downloaded suite and will run it on x86 MINT to see how does it performs while waiting. If there is an X1000 owner that would do it now, you are welcome to do it with him, since my X1000 will not arrive in less then two weeks (AmigaKit goes vacation on system building)
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Re: Speed rankings of Next Gen hardware
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2013, 08:30:19 PM »
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No, Vox is getting a brand new system and only another brand new system would be justified to test against.  We have to keep things fair!

Dear Dammy, don`t be a lawyar. I will post extensive results from Linux and AmigaOS. I don`t expect miracles with CPU - about same clock G4 performance, but memory and I/O are simply newer techs then used in PPC Macs, so I expect expected.

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If I bought a G4 or G5 MorphOS machine would it somehow in anyway help me to create OS4 software?

I only have classic Amigas now.

I will never ever have $3000.00 for an X1000.

No, you can`t run OS4 software on those. I also throught I will never be able to afford X1000 but will pay it in 60 months (59 now).

However, newer high end models bring older SAMs and AmigaOnes to market used at affordable prices.
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Re: Speed rankings of Next Gen hardware
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2013, 05:55:32 PM »
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I don't think anyone is complaining about OS4.

People are complaining that they would like to run OS4 but are unimpressed with the limited range of hardware available to run OS4 on.

I haven't used OS4 on my own hardware since I sold my BPPC a few years ago but if Hyperion ported it to Macs I'd buy a copy the day it was released, just like many Peg2 owners did.

I will just say that other way around works too: many SAM and X1000 users would like to see MorphOS on their system. SAM 460 port is good way to go, sadly MOS team refused Nemo board from Trevor.
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Re: Speed rankings of Next Gen hardware
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2013, 08:33:54 PM »
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Why should they work for free?  I'm sure he pays Hyperion to port OS4 to X1000 rather than just giving them a free motherboard.

Well, same can be said for OS4 port for MacMini. Both Hyperion and MOS team expect to be paid for new mobo ports, which is not likely. And not like there are million PPC choices - its exhausted beside SAMs and X1000 for MOS and PPC Macs for AOS4.
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