What's the Deal With CommodoreUSA?

[vox]

Good points all!

Here's a short-list attempt to answer my own question as to why Amiga/Commodore reboots fail:

10. Don't call it Amiga or Commodore - these names are doomed to failure!
:hat::hat::hat::hat::hat::hat::hat:

What is the deal - it can hardly be one.

We tried suggesting the things, but they have their own way.

Now Amiga Mini is dead (just barebone) and yet anything can be it.

http://anticusa.wordpress.com/amiga-mini-is-dead-already-as-well-as-cos-is-non-compatibile-to-many-standard-x64-machines/

[vox]

Hopefully the end is nigh.

Effectivly they just abuse Linux now.

http://anticusa.wordpress.com/2012/07/14/distrowatch-analysis-vision-is-not-up-to-mint-13-maybe-fusion-will-be/
http://anticusa.wordpress.com/2012/07/02/commodoreos-beta-9-is-mint-that-you-can-download-and-install-free-at-1ghz-pc-1gb/

And how do they respect MINT dem a steal, pirates and lowlifes!

Hi,

They contacted us and we talked about a partnership initially. Then we didn’t hear from them anymore so we assumed they weren’t interested in doing anything with us.

We’re still happy to see our OS used by others and I don’t think there’s any problems in regards to licensing. It’s just a missed opportunity for them and for us to establish what would have been a very good partnership.

Regards,

Clement Lefebvre

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There has been much criticism of the company CUSA because of its hype and claims of creating a “new operating system for our computers” and then simply skinning an existing linux distribution. Critics of CUSA and several linux experts have stated that COS development time has been less than 2 weeks time to write some scripts and replace standard mint graphics files with their own

[vox]

That's par for the course.

Like many here, I enthusiastically sent them a slew of my best ideas, which were promptly ignored - not so much as an acknowledgement of ever having received anything from me. This small snub (not even an auto-responder?) seems to set the tone for what they want, and what they're after.

We won't have to worry about them much longer. In the immortal words of Bones, "I think he's dead, Jim." just about describes where they'll be this time next year, if not sooner.

True, they will not be Millionaires unlike Trotters that at least try so hard.

Early back in the days AROS community tried to link up, everyone was entusiastic, their own community tried with forums ... and Nooo ... we just get bunch of insults in Barrons interviews, and the way they wish to go with no reality based PR ...

True example how NOT to conduct bussiness

Even criticism was intended to improve their "services" and "product" but then you face insults on national, religious, health, sexuality and faith grounds.

My example
http://anticusa.wordpress.com/2012/07/03/aussie-get-baron-stylee/

[vox]

Arguably CUSA has created a nice case for their C64 look alike. It`s hard to find a comparable box these days.

You can' t blame a company for selling Intel chips in their hardware and Linux is a good choice if you want to add branding on an otherwise free OS. So it all rational choices here.

"Skinning" a Linux distro to the extend they where doing requires dedication and a lot of work.

a) Yes, they have made ONE case. Nothing more than that.
b) We can blame them for selling them as most expensive (-highest profit margin) with no real commercial software or added value of any kind
c) There is nothing really new in COS that is not part of the MINT, in fact MINT is way more advanced and compatibile now. So its outdated, incompatibile Linux for general Linux use and great fakerism of developing anything

Please provide any arguments that tell the opossite.

[vox]

True, I like the cases, what original C64 user wouldn't? But, truthfully, there are a lot of C64 cases out there, I have a few myself.
I can and do blame them for using Intel processors. :python:

I'm sure preparing the Linux distro was difficult - as a matter of fact, it was so hard, they seems to have half-a$$ed it, and screwed it all up!

In effect, this thing is something of a monstrosity.

OK if they intended to do it for dummies they should surely charge less, go with Win7 starter and Linux with AmigaForever and AROS (as promised here)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzsmiuEYUQY

as well as AMD ATI solution would be way greater performant than ATOM and integrated nVIDIA. Same goes for i7.

Again, see AresOne prices and learn
http://www.vesalia.de/e_aresone.htm

There is even less CUSA offers for much more.
Beside engravement.

[vox]

"Skinning" a Linux distro to the extend they where doing requires dedication and a lot of work.

I've been a linux user since 1996...

I disagree. If you really look at what they've done, they've given you some wallpapers, compiz panoramic graphics, made a system sound theme and a few other things.

They have also installed a bunch of things for you from the ubuntu repos.
But thats about it. Thats not development, thats simply customizing it a bit.

Development requires actual work.

Steven

Not to mention Leo pretends to be the only IT litterate person around there, beside some PR, lawliar and a dog. If that is so much of development ... I never get why do they get any followers.

Our small enthusiasts and companies kind of sound PRO and RELIABLE when compared ... as well as INNOVATIVE.

AresOne is much better and cheaper jampack if needing an x64
http://www.vesalia.de/e_aresone.htm

[vox]

Yes.

Only this time they needed to hire a "Chief Technology Officer" to manage that and told people they were "developing" an "OS". Big business...

Wanna be. Sometimes I am amazed by number of PROs

New forum has introcuded few new "developers"

CTO
http://forums.commodore.net/member.php?31-Amigatek
CEO
http://forums.commodore.net/member.php?2-digitex
Staff
http://forums.commodore.net/member.php?4-Harry-Cusa
Admin
http://forums.commodore.net/member.php?1-syntek%20http://forums.commodore.net/showthread.php?26-The-man-behind-the-curtain

And there is one moderator (admins and mods are probably unpaid).

That makes 3 maybe employed persons. Now you do understand why sometimes Hyperion looks pro.

I mean, they do admit skinning other distros
http://forums.commodore.net/showthread.php?37-First-Screenshots-of-COS2-F&p=1085#post1085

COS Vision 1 is Ubuntu circa 2010 at least, as it was based on Mint 10 which was a Ubuntu 10.10 remix.
COS Vision 2 is a Mint 13 MATE remix, with the same interface as COS Vision 1. (Which IMHO is still the best UI)
You know, before the rather unneccesary(IMHO) interface schism between the Gnome and Canonical groups.
COS Fusion which is a different Commodore linux flavour looks like it is Gnome 3 based.
If you need to be more bleeding edge, then you will probably find that the ticket.

Welcome to our forums Haywirepc.

As well as AROS story should not be forgotten
http://anticusa.wordpress.com/2012/07/01/commodoreos-beta-9-uses-aros-kickstart/
http://anticusa.wordpress.com/2012/07/20/same-chaper-innovative-by-community-aresone/

[vox]

Doesn't this troll fest belong in a basement subboard?

Yes, as well as all future of C-USA many, many, many innovations and promises belongs under ground not in rebel sense of words ...

As you do know trolls of trolls fest have all been listed ...
http://anticusa.wordpress.com/commodoreusa-fanboys-n-spammers-list-block-em/

Because anything can be Amiga, and nothing at same time.
http://anticusa.wordpress.com/with-cusa-anything-can-be-amiga/

[vox]

I have to agree with Dammy that this thread really belongs in the sub forum for Cusa related stuff.

But just to get my nose in. Their recent business model at the moment seems to be to get people to get into this reseller model. This was confirmed by the guy who dud the weak podcast and from stuff on their forums.

I agree C-USA spam does belong there. That includes any of their PR too.

There are no listed resellers so far at the website.
http://www.commodoreusa.net/CUSA_Dealers.aspx

Great MLM scheme, just if Barry was Billy Maze ...

Guy that DUD ... nice ... like a French policeman from Allo Allo :-)

Franko did great reinterpretation of that licence
http://anticusa.wordpress.com/2012/06/27/cusa-custom-configurator-programme/

[vox]

To shorten the story, there is nothing unavail that C-USA offers apart C64x case I would not buy just because of way they conduct bussiness.

And everything is massivly overpriced.

Sadly, instead of lowering the sys price, Linux is abused as faked added value.

An example of anti open source behav.

[vox]

Ive said before and people got mad, but a linux /base/ for an Amiga os is the only sane option left.

You have access to extremely wide base of hardware, with drivers available, you have access into modern applications etc.
Develop a desktop environment that genuinely feels and functions like a fully featured amiga environment and go from there. Heck, amithlon proved what could have been.

Yeah, it wont satisfy the purists but neither does anything else. So **** 'em.

It doesnt have to change AmigaOS completely. Some easier porting and components are avail. A better support of PPC Linuxes for Peg2, Efika, AmigaOne, SAMS and X1000 is needed. Dual boot is OK.Some Linux virtual machine for DEB Linux PPC would be nice.