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Re: Finally, back to CES!
« on: December 21, 2002, 12:43:44 PM »
Oh dear.
Let's hope they don't make the Amiga connection too clear.
It would be pretty bad for AmigaOS to be associated with this at the show. MorphOS is still some time away from being ready for prime time :((

Buck: If you're reading this - please at least don't mention Amiga too much while you're there, ok?
 

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Re: Finally, back to CES!
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2002, 07:56:08 PM »
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Nice FUD Trezzer.

FUD means Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt.

None of that has anything to do with what I wrote.
FUD would be saying something like "our competitor's machines will not work without our chip".
 

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Re: Finally, back to CES!
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2002, 08:09:16 PM »
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You are wrong about something: we are ready for "prime time." That is why we are going to CES. The Pegasos is a great platform. Sure, we have big plans for MorphOS and we know we have a way to go to get it where it needs to be, but it is pretty good now too. Have you tried it lately?


Yes. You were there and we talked. That's why I'm asking you.
MorphOS suffers from terrible performance during high cpu load. Well, since it seems you'll be leeching off the Amiga name there, at least make it look good by not installing applications that will crash the machines - like they did several times in the comparatively short period of time when I was watching them at WoA SE.

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You must know that the Pegasos is not just about MorphOS and Amiga applications and software. It is about providing an opportunity to create and innovate. It is about having a platform that can do new things and old things in better ways.


Sorry. I am highly immune to marketing ^_^.
If you could actually give an example of how it does "old things in better ways" or how it can do "new things"...

I'm sorry, but I know enough about MorphOS to not get exited. You'll need one hell of an effort to get me to the other side of the road. I do doubt though, that you could ever get me excited enough to develop for you. If MorphOS should make it and AmigaOS not, I think I'd rather just throw the towel in the ring and use OS X instead.

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So, sorry to tell you this Trezzer, but for some folks we are "Amiga" too.

No. You're leeching off the Amiga name. There's a difference. You're as much "Amiga" as Amithlon. If H&P had paid Amiga Inc. for their use of Amiga IP I'd say you were less "Amiga" than Amithlon. Heck, Amiga Forever is more "Amiga" than MorphOS.

MorphOS - legacy application support aside - is so far no more than vapor. If your product truly is as great as you claim, why not prove it on your own terms, instead of running Amiga applications and recompiled Amiga applications.

BeOS was more Amiga-ish to me than MorphOS (especially in the way it *feels*) even though it didn't support Amiga applications. Even though BeOS was often called "son of AmigaOS" Be never had illusions of grandeur and tried to make it on their own terms. They failed, but hey, that's how it goes sometimes...

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Computing should be about making people's lives more convenient, or more interesting or more fun.

That's what my Amiga has done for me for the last 16 years, which is one of the reasons why I'm fighting FOR Amiga and against division - a division which Genesis (whether you want to or not) will bring with you by going your own way.

No-one can tell the future, but I can say as much as MorphOS and Genesi bring cracks to the already unsafe roads where AmigaOS has to go in the next years to make it outside of this community.

If you really wanted to do something for Amiga, why didn't you put your money where your mouth is back in the VisCorp days? You could have bought AmigaOS, but either chickened out or failed to raise the money for it.

Oh.. btw.: sponsoring football and military?.... c'mon!
 

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Re: Finally, back to CES!
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2002, 10:40:50 PM »
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So can the Amiga Community count on you?


Yes. But I don't see Genesi as part of it. They are Amiga-related due to their level of compatibility, but they are not going to bring AmigaOS forward. Instead they are going to push their own proprietary solution, which is fine - I just wish they'd stand on their own two feet instead of on the backs of others.

As it is now, MorphOS is NOT ready to be shown to the world unless it has been radically improved since I saw it 2 months ago. Something I seriously doubt. That's why I'm asking Buck to not drag the Amiga name into it or to at least make sure the machine only runs stable apps. Otherwise we'll instantly be the laughing stock of the entire industry - the Amiga community will be, that is. If MorphOS was a mature product I'd have far less against it - well other than the fact that I dislike their entire strategy, but at least it wouldn't hurt the Amiga name if a good product was out there claiming to be related to Amiga (even if it isn't). Before you go on about it actually being so I'll remind you that other boxes are planned. MorphOS will also not be BeOS when it has that compatibility later. Nor will it be Linux when it gains THAT layer. Just as it isn't AmigaOS now with the A/Box.

That's my main complaint. If you're gonna make it: make it on your own instead of at the cost of others.