X1000 general questions

[dammy]

Does it run Windows? :laughing:

In all seriousness what is third party support like for launch, specifically a number of users would buy this for gaming capability which is pretty much what sold most of the low end Amigas to the mass market (which I assume is something you'd want to capitalise on, if not immediately then shortly after)?

Perhaps somebody should approach old school houses like Team17, the remnants of Ocean, Elite software and so forth - people who knew to take a risk with something new who are more likely than behemoths like Activision's dev studios et al to support it.

The time to donate dev machines to these people will likely be here soon.

If this is in reference to A-EON's AmigaOne x1000, what third party is going to spend resources on a system that will sell in the low hundreds of total units sold?  Time you add in what AmiKit's profit on the AmigaOne x1000's, I wouldn't be too surprised if it's close to 1,800 GBP, then add in VAT and shipping.

[dammy]

well if you're into gaming it'll give you the opportunity to play modern games as well as all the old classic 68k games while using your favourite OS

Why wouldn't people just buy a SAM460 now and pay far less?  Problem for the A1X1K is OS4 only runs on one CPU core, second can't be used.

[dammy]

well I guess it's up to personal choice and that's good in Amiga land for sure:)
btw, are you 'sure' it only runs on one core;)

I'm fairly confident that OS4 only runs on a single core.  They could try to run OS4 on each core as separate OSs, but who would care for that?  People want SMP for multicore support.

[dammy]

The fastest PPC processor available in the Amiga community and modern PCIe expansion slots.
This board operates at almost twice what the SaM460 does and the processor includes AltiVec instructions that the APM based SAMs don't have.
As it is due to be released long before G5 support is introduced for MorphOS, it now turns the performance crown over to AOS.

For PPC, AROS still owns the fastest hardware since it's x86/x86_64 based.

You get a chance to buy a system based on a really neat PPC that probably would have helped Apple raise the performance of its laptops if they had not moved to X86.

That would have been an impressive statement, six years ago.  Today your talking about dusty boxes sitting in a warehouse for multiple years.

Its just a damned nice piece of Amiga hardware.
Any other stupid questions?

It's not an Amiga, it's a AmigaOne.

[dammy]

You can use both cores. And what is more: You can use Xena. And it will get easier to do so. OS4 won't stop you from using any of the HWs features and Hyperion is planning some pretty advanced stuff themselves. Their part may take some time though.

You and I both know when the A1X1K is released, OS4 is not going to be SMP.  Who will want to use Xena and for what purpose when they get their A1X1K out of the box?  I'm sure Hyperion has some loft dreams they want OS4 to reach, but that is a long way from reality.

[dammy]

SMP means different things to different people, but Amiga users know that symmetry is not the only road to success (think Paula). Hyperion has some conceps and ideas they haven't talked much about yet, but at Amiwest you could tell they know their stuff and are ready to go beyond just copying what is found elsewhere.

I would say the definition of SMP is straight forward: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symmetric_multiprocessing

[dammy]

AROS is an X86 product, that was not the point. I was taliking about PPC. And AROS still runs on one core. Should Hyperion be able utilize both cores that would give AOS an advantage over AROS.

AROS is also PPC and is now ARM Linux hosted as well.  Yes it only runs on one core mainly do to them keeping the 3.1 API holy.  They will have to break the 3.1 API for AROS (on x86/PPC/ARM) to go SMP.

It's not an Amiga, it's a AmigaOne

Yes, I forgot its an AmigaOne that runs AmigaOS, currently planned "Amigas" will be Windows boxes.

The new Amigas are x86 based, they can run Windows but will more then likely be running Linux for the time being, or something else while running AOS 3.x series in emulation, just like how OS4 runs the AOS 3.x apps/games.

Dammy, you'd shit on anything, and I'm not impressed with your opinions.

It's not my opinion, I'm dealing with facts.  If you don't like the facts, that's too bad for you.

If I had the money, I'd buy an X1000. I'm sure that there are enough people that will buy one. I'm completely impressed with the machine, and intend to continue to use "dusty" PPC boxes.

I personally don't care if you buy all 250 A1X1Ks.  I just want to point out there is AROS and it is in PPCland as well as x86land and now ARMland which means it runs on the fastest hardware, even on a single core.