Anubis, Icaros, and XAmiga...

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Anubis: An Amiga os nextgen for x86 that will have memory protection, benefit from linux vast driver collection. Only the kernel is based on linux the userland will be amiga. Its no linux distro. It have vast potential in the future.

I'd say ARM version is a fairly safe bet at this point in time.  Maybe PPC too.

Dammy

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You are correct. It will probably be a long time, if ever, before we see Anubis actually running.

You could just watch and see what developes here.  Imagine, a OEM that is helpful for developing an OS, who would have thought?

Dammy

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Might Anubis be an ARM port of MorphOS? I hope so and I also hope that x86 will follow soon thereafter.

It is not.  It owes it's heritage to Linux kernel and ideas from AROS.  It has nothing to do with MOS which is closed source.  

Dammy

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It seems like they are creating a whole lot of work that is unnecessary. Given that they have only 15 people on their list and only show the expertise of three, they wouldn't seem to have the expertise and manpower necessary to accomplish their stated task of an Amiga Like gui let alone produce their own Linux distro to build upon.

Could you also predict next weeks Lotto numbers for us as well?  I'm not really sure why your so negative at this point about the project, unless our concern about your beloved charity OS being threatened by an Open Source OS like Anibus-OS of course.  I guess it may be frightening to think that a OEM is supporting Anubis-OS with consumer level hardware, but such is life.

Dammy

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Hence the conclusion - AROS is for PCs as long as you are desktop. So statistically, not necessarily fully supported x86.

If you look closely, Pixie said, "Hosted" and he is right on the money.  As long as the host OS has something equal to vmware, it can run AROS hosted without issue.  Your thinking of natively running on notebooks which may indeed have issues because of the unusual hardware that maybe be found in a notebook.

Dammy

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I only read what I see, have you been to the Arix page? The fifteen is off that page. Personally I have coded in Obj-C, I have also been involved in OS development. I've also watch dozens of OSs try and fail. You have a massive project, you have limited resources. I am simply being a realist.

Seems more like wanting something to fail to be honest.

I don't think that Arix/Anubis threatens AROS, but obviously you have issues with AROS...

I said your charity OS. Unless you have been donating to AROS since P2P took over the bounties, I sure don't remember seeing you donate a penny to AROS.  That would leave the possibility of two other charity OSs, OS4 and MOS. Those two I could easily see be threatened by Anubis-OS in the coming years.

Dammy

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I don't agree here. The target audiences are somewhat different: MorphOS is PPC, Anubis x86. MorphOS runs amiga apps directly, Anubis doesn't.

Your forgetting ARM for Anubis-OS and probably PPC (SAM and EFIKA I) as well.

Dammy

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I'd still like to hear about this "charity" thing, btw.

That's fine. What none main stream OS are you paying money for that isn't selling in the hundreds of thousands?

Dammy

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by Piru on 2009/3/31 12:41:42

@dammy Quote:      What none main stream OS are you paying money for that isn't selling in the hundreds of thousands?   How does it make it charity?

I would most certainly call paying for a tiny hobby OS that is not economically viable an act of charity.  

Dammy

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by Piru on 2009/3/31 14:39:39

So equally, you think that paying developers via bounty system is charity aswell?

Absolutely.  It was a personal requirement of mine to find a 501(c)3 to hand off TeamAROS to.  Unlike OS4/MOS, AROS is a community OS which depends on charity, be it of donations or from the developer's time and efforts.  Others may say they are a commercial OS, the sad numbers of paying customers prove they are economically unviable and more charity then anything else.

Dammy

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by persia on 2009/3/31 15:00:50

And free beer, don't forget free beer!

Sure, as long as your paying for it.   Genesi is stepping up to the plate for Anibus-OS ARM support.

Dammy

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This whole Arix thing is like nailing jelly to the wall, everything is bluster, big talk, give us an OS that we can play with, the Source Forge page downloads section is empty...

Feel free to ignore the project until the M1 release.  It's actively being worked on and things will be released when they are ready.

Dammy

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by Piru on 2009/4/1 2:31:31

@dammy Quote:      Others may say they are a commercial OS, the sad numbers of paying customers prove they are economically unviable and more charity then anything else.   I still find it insulting, especially the way you put it forward earlier.  It is true however that the income from the MorphOS licenses doesn't even remotely cover the development costs of the OS. But that has been the case for over a decade and personally I don't have any problem with that. MorphOS isn't there to make a profit. It's a hobby more than anything else I'd say, and quite ambitious one, too. The license cost applied to MorphOS 2.x is there to cover the costs of the support infrastructure, the new HW for future developments and so on. I object to labeling that as charity.

You can object all you want, it's charity OS that has no possible future of being profitable enough to pay it's employees and contractors.  MOS supporters know it, and the MOS devs know it.  

Dammy

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by Piru on 2009/4/1 8:44:01

Didn't you get it? This is not a business, it's a hobby. There is no profit to make.

Which makes it a charity. Thank you for the confirmation.

Dammy

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Just for the record, as Aperez has already mentioned, there is no bad blood between Anubis and AROS. Actually, it is just the opposite. The Anubis people still work on and totally support AROS.

I love AROS!

Good example is Dr. Schulz's work on AROS-ARM.