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Re: AMIGAONE.... isn't it an obsolete technology already?
« on: November 15, 2005, 05:09:08 AM »
by FrankBrana on 2005/11/7 3:36:09

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You think PCs are better, cheaper, faster? Then youre welcome to visit PC forums or stop the X86 trolling here.


That's alright, AROS runs quiet nicely on x86.  For a price of a A1 mobo/cpu, you can buy a new low end laptop. Which can run AROS, of course. :)

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Re: AMIGAONE.... isn't it an obsolete technology already?
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2005, 12:23:18 PM »
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AROS is not even near to the quality, usability and robustness of AmigaOS 4. It's developed for many (10+ already) years by a tiny group of enthusiasts, part time, while AmigaOS 4 is commercially developed with two full time employed developers and a great many of contributors. Currently there is much more software available for AmigaOS 4, than for AROS, despite the fact that AROS predates the announcement of AmigaOS 4 with around 6 years:


It's slow in developement, but it's still progressing and it can be run on cheap hardware that can multi-boot into other OSs.

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OS4Depot as of today - 667 files.
AROS archives as of today - 11 files.


Except you didn't mention that AROS archives is only a few months old nor did you mention the vast majority of files are in the AROS or AROS Distro AROS-Max which has even more files then the AROS ISO.  The AROS Archive is the "over flow" of code that people did not want to submit into the AROS SVN.

Biggest draw back to OS4, other then the lack of reasonable hardware at reasonable costs, it's joined at the hip with Amiga Inc.  That's enough for the vast majority of Amiga users to shy away from A1/OS4.  AROS is independent of commercial preasures and failures.

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Re: AMIGAONE.... isn't it an obsolete technology already?
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2005, 12:25:42 PM »
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However, I tried AROS several times and it was a crash-fest.


What was the latest version did you try and was it AROS ISO or the distro, AROS-Max?  More importantly, what hardware did you try it with?

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Re: AMIGAONE.... isn't it an obsolete technology already?
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2005, 09:00:00 PM »
Except A1's are finished.  Their chipset is now EOL and the fat lady has sung.  Either Eyetech will have to find a new hardware to call A1, or Hyperion finds a new suck^H^H^Hhardware vender willing to put up with AI Tax.

Either way, it's not a pretty future.

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Re: AMIGAONE.... isn't it an obsolete technology already?
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2005, 09:11:06 PM »
Question of course, who is going to do the R&D into putting a new mobo together.  Eyetech simply boingballed stamped the mobo after swapping out the ROM image.  I doubt anyone will deny that developing a new mobo is beyond Eyetech's capabilities.  Of course, no one will deny it would be expensive to do and ROI is nearly impossible with the current market.

Unless Eyetech can come up with a new mobo to rebadge, no more A1s.

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Re: AMIGAONE.... isn't it an obsolete technology already?
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2005, 03:26:59 AM »
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So we need a "Cell" port for OS4, Hyperion have hinted about this before and if it turns out to be the natural path for ppc, GREAT, it's a powerfull chip.


Except it's not that great of a general purpose CPU for desktops.

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Re: AMIGAONE.... isn't it an obsolete technology already?
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2005, 09:15:26 PM »
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One reason why MorphOS and AmigaOS4 (have to) stick to PPC is
backwards compatibility. AROS is ported to x86 (or rather it always
was) but you cant use existing M68k, PowerUp or WarpUp software with
it.


Actually the first platform for AROS was on the Amiga.  It migrated to x86 from the Amiga.  As using existing Amiga apps and such, AROS has EUAE.

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Re: AMIGAONE.... isn't it an obsolete technology already?
« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2005, 02:21:23 AM »
My current favor micro-ATX mobo is an ASUS A8N-VM for $91.50 (with shipping no less).  Great Bang:Buck ratio.  Throw either a el-cheapo Athlon64 939 or a Athlon X2 and you got a nice little setup.

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