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Re: BVision connector ref needed
« on: November 23, 2010, 07:34:21 PM »
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I guess you should get some clues from the support chips on the BPPC and the BVision... I don't recall any PCI host chips on the BPPC or the BVision (could be implemented in CPLD or FPGAs maybe?)... But I am pretty sure the Permidia2 was designed to interface to a PCI? No? The BPPC connector could well be just the PPC CPU signals brought out to a header...


The adapter board for the GRexx has a great big CPLD on it. If you look up the part number, you'll see it's a PCI compliant part. My guess is that it probably implements whatever is missing on the Blizzard itself.
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Re: BVision connector ref needed
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2010, 07:35:09 PM »
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i may of got it wrong about Elbox.


If I had to guess, I'd say you were thinking of the GRexx, which is phase5/DCE.
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Re: BVision connector ref needed
« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2010, 01:12:54 PM »
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Well that suggests the BPPC port is little more than a header on the BPPC's bus... If it were a PCI port the G-Rex would require little logic to bring that out to standard PCI slots :)

I remember asking Ralf Schmit about the port some 13 years ago, and recall him saying it was standard PCI... But I don't know how much he know about the hardware... He could have been referring the whole interface with the BVision...


Well, there is a bit of CPLD glue on the BVision also.
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Re: BVision connector ref needed
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2010, 01:24:26 PM »
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I would suggest that is to interface with the PCI compatible interface in the Permedia2 :)


I don't doubt it. Pity there doesn't seem to be any obvious DMA between the two cards (perhaps there is and I'm just not aware of it). I recall that the GRexx was supposed to be capable of supporting host <-> PCI device DMA.
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Re: BVision connector ref needed
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2010, 01:40:11 PM »
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I doubt there is any, BVision was clearly build on a budget... Speaking of which, do you still have your A1200 setup?


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Re: BVision connector ref needed
« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2010, 01:44:27 PM »
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A simple yes would have been sufficient... Ok, then do you want to try getting AROS on your A1200?


Do I take it that at present only AGA native modes are supported? If that is the case, I will be a bit stuck as I currently have no 15kHz capable display devices.
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Re: BVision connector ref needed
« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2010, 02:01:10 PM »
I might have an old TV tuner card somewhere...
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Re: BVision connector ref needed
« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2010, 08:00:03 PM »
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first Bvision the world to have a 250Mhz RamDac and has a vertical refresh rate of 200Hz and there *may possibly* be more to come from it`s PCI bus beyond 43Mhz.


I fail to see how this information assists the OP, but I have to ask, a 200Hz refresh rate is a bit pointless isn't it? On my CRT there's no appreciable improvement of picture quality beyond 85Hz refresh.
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Re: BVision connector ref needed
« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2010, 11:20:08 AM »
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let me see,you are wrong picture quality has improved this is before i changed any settings,*maybe* this is something i done.

image is a little bit sharper more defined


What, does a faster vertical refresh rate magically change your CRT's dot pitch?


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,this is why i don`t need to use a screenmode lower than 800x600 when testing any PPC games.


800x600 may be technically impressive for P2 3D gaming, but like most 3D game fans, I tend to use rather less archaic kit for the job.

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whats your *refresh rate* with highest *screenmode* setting while retaining 16.7 million colours?

UPDATE CORRECTION: should read upto 200Hz refresh rate.


Well, I don't use 32-bit display modes on the BVision as they are a complete waste of video memory, but I do recall 1280x1024@75 Hz working. The highest it goes is 1600x1200, which is a limit of my old CRT.
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