Isn't it about time we had a good thread on LCD monitors?

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I've only used laptop tft's, but all of those have sucked (and still do) compared to high quality crt monitors. It may be that all my laptops have been of sucky quality (and this new one certainly is).

One of my friends have a pretty lcd, which seems very nice, though. The point was just that tft's are certainly not exceptionally good in general. If you pick the right ones, then perhaps, if not, they're blurry, slow and horrible scalers.

Oh, and as much as you like your 'I can barely see my dead pixels', I really think that's something that needs addressing. I don't know what you use your tft's for, but I find it extremely annoying with a glowing green pixel whenever I try to do something with dark colours. My old laptop had seven dead pixels placed all around the screen, presumably from bumps or whatever. Very unacceptable.

But on the other hand, my crt's just died, so

Yeah yeah, hangover and all.

Sincerely,

-Kenneth Straarup.

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seer wrote:
I don't know what you use your tft's for, but I find it extremely annoying with a glowing green pixel whenever I try to do something with dark colours.

playing Games (Space "sims", strategy, FPS, RPG.. etc etc), watch movies, browse Internet... whatever can be done.. :-)

If you pick the right ones, then perhaps, if not, they're blurry, slow and horrible scalers.

Sure, but that goes for CRT's as well, there are good and bad ones.

But on the other hand, my crt's just died, so

Eh.. Good for you :-D Now you can spend your hard earned cash again.

Yeah yeah, hangover and all.

Excuses excuses.. But you're forgiven.

Heh, thanks

What I meant with the post (I think) was that tft displays are not necessarily God's gift to nerds. I know you can get good tft displays, and as mentioned I've seen a good one in action, but I've never seen a good one on a laptop (but I've never seen a really expensive laptop anyway), and I've seen lots of crappy tft screens.

I know there's lots of crappy crt screen too, but they rarely have dead pixels, bad scaling or too slow refresh (energy dissipation, whatever).

With my budget I'd most certainly get myself another crt monitor if I cannot repair this one (someone says it's probably not that irreplaceable part that's damaged).

So basically these long, non-informative posts are just here to say I agree with Piru (I think it was) saying the only negative aspect of tft is the price. If you want tft you want the expensive ones.

Sorry for the nonsense. I've sobered up properly meanwhile, though

Sincerely,

-Kenneth Straarup.

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but I've never seen a good one on a laptop

Well, I can agree here a bit.. Tho I did see a laptop last week with a great TFT display (could go up to 1600*1200 and that was a 15" screen I think)..

If you want tft you want the expensive ones.

Sure, mine cost me a fortune. Another "problem" is that TFT technoloy advances and that does bring prices of older TFT's down, but it seems like the older screens are discontinued to fast to get realy cheap TFT's meaning the TFT's stay at a certain price range..

That sounds like a decent laptop tft. The ones I see, apart from doing 1024x768 max, all fade in comparison to my sony trinitron 17" crt (when I get it repaired, of course - even the ibook tft even though that's much better than the pc laptop tft's I've seen.

And that price thing is probably kind of like laptops, though they've gotten lots cheaper recently. They don't really get cheaper, just better (or more feature-rich if one likes), which is really annoying. I'd like a 100 dollar laptop that I could use for writing a bit of code or text documents on and nothing else. Or for a cheap, little fileserver or something.

Sincerely,

-Kenneth Straarup.

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To put it in perspective this laptop is almost three months old, and crappy 1024x768 is all it can do. And it's 15" too

Sincerely,

-Kenneth Straarup.

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Holley wrote:
@Kenneth - What kind of laptop is it?  My 2 year old one is just a cheap Samsung, and it's display is great - and we have earlier models in the office that are a year older and still work fine (same 15" 1400x1050 display as mine).  

We had problems with some newer ones breaking on the connecting leads through the hinge, and some old ultra-cheap (£400) ones could only do 1024x768, but never fuzzy or any dropped pixels.

It's a crappy crap acer travelmate. Exactly the same with my toshiba satellite and satellite pro preceeding it (2 and 3 years old).

Sincerely,

-Kenneth Straarup.

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Well, the acer is much worse than the toshiba's I've owned. And those match your description of them pretty well, so you should have an idea of what I have to go through every day when I turn it on

Sincerely,

-Kenneth Straarup.

(I have seen other laptops too, though, so I'm not only basing my tft opinion on three crap machines).