C64x promotes piracy.

[Digiman]

Let's face it, you now realise you wasted $600 for some rubbish netbook performance C64 lookalike PC with Linux C64 emulator present.

So pretty much all you can now do is play on the emulator....so you download the entire 3000 original tape and 10000 disk archives of C64 games OR pop in your Retrogenius Ultimate C64 DVD and run VICE emulator on it....way to go :roflmao:

They might as well give you a free Jack Sparrow toy in the box with all their incitement to pirate seeing as you CAN'T use real C64 tapes/disks/carts

[Digiman]

Is there a C64 equivalent of World of Spectrum where the site tries to get permission from the copyright holders to offer the games for download? If so they could just give a link to that site, or they could just include games that they have permission to distribute (maybe they will strike a deal with the copyright holders?)

As long as there is a legal source for the disk/tape images, it's no more a promotion of piracy than Dell selling a gaming PC knowing that some people will play a pirate copy of Crysis 2 on it, IMHO.

Except that C64 original software can never be used on a C64x but pirates choose not to use original PC games on their gaming PCs.

There is ***********.com.....99.99% illegal. Some authors have releaed about 20 games out of 12,000 as freeware now that's it.

[Digiman]

Piracy is a Commodore tradition. It'd be far and away the most C64-like thing about the system.

Haha.....Action Replay cart anyone?

[Digiman]

Gamebase64 claim that the files are not hosted on their servers. But if you hover over the link it shows that they has set-up an account under their name on  some file host thing.

Not that I am bothered because I use it all the time to download games off. Usually games that I own the tape for but it no longer works..... As unreliable as tape medium is.

Lemon64 do have a few games that they actually have permission to distribute on their site. It's only a handful though. But they do not host anything else on their site.

And that's the dilemma I have for my VIC-20 site being worked on. It's all well and good making the 1000s of videos of every game etc but without any file links to the actual images a bit of a waste of time.

(not gamebase front end related)

[Digiman]

You know, Digiman, there plenty of reasons to criticize the C64x without making up retarded **** about it. You're fighting windmills.

So you would buy a £1000 C64x and only use it with ubuntu + firefox + open office etc and not VICE + game images of a C64 mk1 which it looks like :roflmao:

(as there is no cassette, cart or iec serial bus interface you can not play original games)

[Digiman]

Its is a dark, grey and often murky area that we travel when it comes to images of anything. Often it's hard trying to work out what's freeware, abandon ware and still in copy right. I try to only grab images of stuff I own for when I am making video's. Also if I tend to play c64 and Amiga games as images these days because I don't want to potentially ruin the tape or disk.

As for the original post on this thread.

Piracy has been around for decades. Hell we had a few c64 tapes that were copies. I don't think that the C64X is promoting piracy any more than I promote healthy living.

I have no problem with its mild piracy influence....even if it didn't exist VICE does and includes all roms pre-configured and the number of new VICE users is negligible. Was kinda tongue in cheek by blowing that aspect out of all proportion.

Put it this way, I bought an Acorn Archimedes 3000 but as there isn't a single copy of Zarch to be found for sale worldwide I will have to write back a downloaded ADF to disk. Not my fault and why it doesn't count for retro computers IMHO

Making an entire archive available from your website is a bit different in theory though.