Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?

[takemehomegrandma]

I am amazed at the >2gb comment, understand it with Vista though, I run Windows 7 on a netbook with a single core atom and 1gb ram and it flies.

Yeah, it must be Vista he's talking about...

But MorphOS to me is more polished than Aros but Aros IMHO has the best potential future and already has parts the others lack.

Yes, AROS has some interesting parts that MorphOS lacks (even more so if you look at the bounties as "real features, just not quite here yet"), but it certainly goes the other way around as well, and I mean real features which goes beyond any level of "polishness" (as I'm sure you know, since I watched your great videos!

As for the future, all we can say about it is that it's unknown, right? MorphOS "management" (is there any? ) doesn't communicate on any kind of road map they might (or might not) have. AROS is AFAIK a bit more anarchistic in its development, right? But both OS's are in the hands of enthusiast developers, and I'm sure development for both will continue as long as there is an interest among them to do so.

If you build your claim about potential future on CPU architecture support, I wouldn't claim it's cut in stone that MorphOS will be PPC *forever* (unlike OS4). AFAIK, none of the developers has suggested it would; instead they have shown quite a realistic view on the matter IMHO, judging by the public posts I have seen from them...

I like AROS BTW, and I like the idea and philosophy behind it!

I'm even thinking of chipping in some money in one of the bounties, probably the wifi one...

[takemehomegrandma]

Linux isn't just a desktop OS

Linux is a server OS and an embedded OS so much more than it is a desktop OS.

[takemehomegrandma]

Windows 7 Ultimate

That's strange...

I'm using Windows 7 professional as we speak, and it's really growing on me! (Never thought I would say that )

When I bought my Dell laptop back in 2007 (some Core2 duo, with 2GB RAM), it came pre-installed with Vista. No XP option. I got so mad on Vista that I after only a few days, out of pure frustration, went down to a local store and bought an overpriced copy of XP instead, then spent a few days hunting down OEM drivers since DELL back then wouldn't publish XP drivers on the support page of this particular product. Eventually I got it up, and has been very happy with it ever since.

Now I'm actually considering switching the XP out for Win7 on that laptop, because of my current positive experiences of Win7...

(Please note that I'm not trying to sell Win7 to anyone here! Merely questioning some experiences of it that differs greatly from my own!

How about a put Ambient on AROS bounty?

Yeah right, well then, maybe we shall start by paying for closed source MUI4...

AROS would greatly benefit from both though!

[takemehomegrandma]

I've been using it as a desktop OS for the last 7 years. It's fine.

Huh? Where did I say that it's *not* fine to use Linux as a desktop OS?

My point was that *the most instances of usage* of Linux is either in some server application or in some kind of embedded application. And I only said this as a reply to a statement that "Linux is more than a desktop OS". Well, DUH! It's primarily *not* a desktop OS (statistically), although many people enjoys it as such, which is fine by me!

[takemehomegrandma]

Would you rather have the AmigaOne X1000 or a Natami?

The X1000 is merely a low volume PC with some dead-end PPC cpu, offering 2007 level PC performance at 2011 high end workstation prices. I fail to see the exciting thing in this.

The NatAmi is really something different, it's a true continuation of Amiga HW. It won't have as much raw cpu power and it won't be as usable for real life stuff, but it will be based on true Amiga HW technologies, which it will also extend and improve.

The X1000 I won't buy because it's *pointless*; it's unproven, underpowered, ridiculously overpriced and OS4 isn't even close to MorphOS when it comes to features, performance, Amiga compatibility. The whole package is redundant, no "raison d'etre"!

The NatAmi I won't buy unless its price comes down to about half of what they have talked about. It's a truly interesting piece of HW, and I would really want one, but it's simply too much money for me to spend on a "geek gadget" of this sort.

So I'll stick with MorphOS on my 1.5GHz/64MB VRAM Mac Mini, while hoping that the MorphOS team is about to announce upcoming ARM support as their post-ppc path to the future!

[takemehomegrandma]

Oh, he's a successful businessman? Well slap me silly! Clearly that makes him completely above any form of criticism for any of his actions or plans!

Well, to reconnect to the topic of this thread - I think Barry shows a far better business sense than the people behind the X1000. He starts with identifying a potential market need, and creates a product specified to meet that need. The people behind the X1000 on the other hand starts with a product that nobody really needs, and will end up searching in vain for a market. Nothing bad in that, not at all; my point was merely that they have two different point of views - the former has a *business* point of view and is here to make money based on some mass market, the latter clearly has a *hobby* point of view and is here to create something they themselves thinks is cool, sell a few hundred units of it, and are happy if it will make ends meet in the end.

[takemehomegrandma]

It's PC bling, nothing more.

Maybe, but how is that *bad*?

The need for "Bling" (depending how you define it) is a major source of commerce in most industries targeted to the developed world...

[takemehomegrandma]

The only thing I can imagine at this point, considering the PowerPC restirction forced upon us, would be something based on a many-core QorIQ, the 64bit version, with Altivec put back in.

Multi-core, 64bit CPU's doesn't really bring anything beneficial to the table, since Amiga is neither 64bit nor SMP capable.

[takemehomegrandma]

@Kesa

Probably for the same reason people say "Peg" instead of Pegasos, "A1" instead of "amigaone" and "Sam" instead of "Samantha": It's shorter and easier to write!

There is no need to "trivialize" the the A1X1K, no need for conspiracy theories; its prohibitively high price, its crappy price/performance ratio and OS4's substandard features/performance will ensure it will never become more than a parenthesis even in the OS4 branch of NG OS's...

[takemehomegrandma]

Betatesters have payed without getting the boards???. I think they would pay when receiving.

They paid €750 as a pre-payment upon joining the Lab-rat pack (and agreed to not being considered as real consumers, legally speaking), and they will have to pay the remaining money (minus some unknown discount) when the boards finally ships.

It was most certainly a way for Hyperion/Aeon to finance R&D and production of the thing...