Is Hyperion the new Amiga Inc.?

[itix]

I find there is a miles difference between A.Inc. and Hyperion.

To be honest I have to say Hyperion is doing bad job there. After ten years of development Hyperion still havent deliveded any finished product. Their OS is constantly in beta and their versioning is complete mess. They have got different versions of 4.1 with various patch levels which change from platform to platform. There is no any sign of professionalism and all they got is wannabe Belgian lawyer trashing Amiga community including AROS.

While Amiga Inc was bad making business they had some professionalism in their software development.

[itix]

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[itix]

Yes but to be fair they have never said there company has had massive base of
employees , seems to me and not having any idea they had handfull full time staff
and alot of helpers. but they have delivered a working os .

They have got more developers and beta testers Commodore Amiga ever had. Yet they are still struggling to deliver an OS without beta status slapped on it.

[itix]

Im going to go ahead and ask for some citations to back that up if you would please.

I wouldnt like to trash competing product but when I read TonyW's explanation of their release cycle I could only think they are screwed. With this kind of model they never get properly working release out.

Judging by Amigans.net comment it already seems their 4.1 for SAM460 is different patch level than 4.1 for SAM440. On coming 4.1 release for PowerUp appears to have different patch level than others. You can not work with a release model like that. It is not only laborous but bug reports are completely useless if every platform have different version of components.

[itix]

Actually I meant on the number of developers involved.

Oh.

"OTOH, it should be clear that after working for over 15 months with a team of around 30 developers, we already have a nice wishlist for OS 4.1."

ANN comment in 2003.

I could not find reference for number of Amiga developers at Commodore but Workbench about window should be good source: http://www.gregdonner.org/workbench/wb_31.html

[itix]

well ACube has been a blessing as their hardware is top quality (unlike the first A1's) and their support is amazing:)

While I am ignorant to their hardware they have always acted professionally. No bullshit, no vague promises, just the hardware and that is it.

[itix]

I think there's a massive difference between full time directly employed developers, and how AmigaOS has been developed in the past ten years. 30 developers could mean 2 full time developers, a few people doing their own projects that happen to also be in the OS, some people doing a few weekends on small components, etc.

We developers have better tools, better computers and better knowledge than those Commodore developers in 1994. In theory it should be possible write new complex application faster using OS 4.1 API than with 3.1 API. While in practise compiling large project even on oldest A1-SE should be faster than on any development machine Commodore developers had an access to. And after all we are talking about developers Hyperion has presented as contractors, not contributors.

[itix]

No. That is incorrect, unless something changed this week. heh.

Hermans stepped down couple of years ago (as I recall he got a job in a Belgian law company) but came back around A-eon press release last year. He has been somewhat active between as I have seen him logging on to IRC.

[itix]

So far as I can tell Ben is the only employee of Hyperion, all the developers seem to be contractors, they in turn licence the compiled code (though not the source or the ownership rights) back to Hyperion in lieu of pay.

Ben's day job is in a Belgian law company and I dont think Hyperion ever got formal employees at all. This kind of job (industry) just does not require an office nor employees.