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Sandisk Ultra CF as Hardrive?
« on: May 12, 2010, 03:30:11 PM »
Hello:
I've got a Sandisk Ultra (not Ultra II) CF card with 16Gb, and I'm trying to use it as HD. As in the CF HD I was using I have installed OS 3.9, I installed the new CF and booted it with the 3.9 Emergency Disk.
In HdtoolBox when I open it appears Device: carddisk.device, and version 40.1 . If I select ok it doesn't give any option, only Exit.
 
If I use the old CF-HD with os 3.9 and put the new through PCMCIA, it appears at the screen as C0C6-293C, and I can open it with 0% full, 14.9Gb free, 14.9mb in use.
If I open PrepCard and try to Prepare as a Disk or Prepare as System Ram, it says "Unable to prepare card: Card is write-protected".
If I try to format it doesn't pass 0% and the window closes.
 
Please tell me: is there a way I can use it or perhaps this model isn't compatible with the Amiga?
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Re: Sandisk Ultra CF as Hardrive?
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2010, 04:18:42 PM »
Hi:
Yes, I know and I don't want to use it as Pcmcia. Only connected it later to it to see if I could do something. For example I discovered I can make a Quick Format, but nothing is better now.
 
I usually use another CF connected to IDE without problems.
The Carddisk.device is what Hdtoolbox finds with the CF connected to Ide, not to Pcmcia. Strangely if I try with the Hdtoolbox installed in the "Emergency-Boot" icon, it only detects my internal Cd rom, but if I use the program installed in the floppy disk is when it finds the same plus the Carddisk.device...¿?. Now I have connected again to ide the new 16Gb one, but what can I do if it doesn't let me do anything?
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Re: Sandisk Ultra CF as Hardrive?
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2010, 05:38:42 PM »
Hi:
I'm trying with the Install disk of the Workbench 3.1, using Hdtools, and it seems it works better. I will tell...
« Last Edit: May 13, 2010, 12:12:53 AM by Retrofan »
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Re: Sandisk Ultra CF as Hardrive?
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2010, 08:21:19 PM »
That's what I was going to ask.
With the Install disk of the WB 3.1 I have made the partitions. Later with the Emergency disk of the os3.9 it didn't let me make the format, but I could again with the Install disk.
 
I've heard with OS3.9 which I'm going to install there's no problem making big partitions, but too that's no good to make them with more than 4gb.
 
I would have a problem too making them bigger, as with the HDTools of the Install disk I can't make them bigger than 4gb. I don't know if I would have to make the partitions and the formats and later try to make them again with the HDTools of the os3.9 if it lets me.
 
The thing is I'm not sure how to make those partitions. I've made 6, but still only have formated one. I'm waiting now for an answer.
 
DH0: "System": 400 mb (Bootable)
DH1: "Work": 1GB
DH2: "Apps": 2GB
DH3: "Games I": 4GB
DH4: "Games II": 4 GB
DH5: "Music": 4 GB
 
All aproximately.
 
Don't they seem too much partitions?
What do you recommend to d:confused:?
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Re: Sandisk Ultra CF as Hardrive?
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2010, 09:42:13 PM »
Thanks, that's what I wanted to know. I will format them and I will install first the Sys 4 Aga archives and later the os3.9
 
By the way, what I thought is what people seems to be doing: to format it under 4gb, install the OS3.9 and format again to a bigger partition. This is a post I found:
"I first made an SFS partition under 4GB, then installed 3.9, then I used 3.9's HDToolBox and made two partition on 10GB each."
 
I would like to know what others think about making 6 partitions or less bigger...
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Re: Sandisk Ultra CF as Hardrive?
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2010, 02:11:45 AM »
Thanks. I would like to hear about people having more than 4GB in a partition and having problems (them in special, as there must be less) or recommending it.
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Re: Sandisk Ultra CF as Hardrive?
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2010, 11:52:22 AM »
Please I need some help:
I get to install AmisgaSys 4, install the cd rom and install the os 3.9, but after that the Amiga doesn't boot. I've tried to install WB 3.1 and later os3.9 and happens the same. I have to start it using the 3.1 install disk again.
 
I believe the problem can be in a bad configuration of the partitions of the HD. I used the ones it found, but I believe they are wrong. The CF has 16GB and this is what it found and what I used:
Cylinders: 31029
Heads: 16
Block per track: 63
Block per cylinder: 1008
Park head where (cylinder): 31029
Size: -1139104K (-1112 Meg)
 
Please can anybody tell me which should be such data?
I believe I can have any kind of conflict with that...:(
 
Perhaps I should have read more carefully your advice (really I have read the last two now). I used all the 16gb making 4 partitions. Shall I make only for example two partitions with a total minor than 4gb and after that installing os3.9 and make partitions again? I'm thinking yes...
But what sizes of Heads... and the others shall I use/put?
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Re: Sandisk Ultra CF as Hardrive?
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2010, 12:35:15 PM »
What I don't know how to do is if I have the HD with 2 partitions and I get os3.9 installed, how do I change the partitions without loosing all the installed programs?
(I know it's a software post, but it was started as a possible hardware problem)
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Re: Sandisk Ultra CF as Hardrive?
« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2010, 12:46:47 PM »
Thank you Thomas. And how do I do to make the partitions again when I will have the 3.9 installed, making them over it? I mean, if I make the partitions I loose all the information. How can I put it again?
Perhaps making a copy in the Pcmcia and fulling them again?
Or there is a way to add 3 partitions and let the ones installed as they are?
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Re: Sandisk Ultra CF as Hardrive?
« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2010, 01:48:47 PM »
I don't understand what happens. I've already made only two partitions:
DH0, System, bootable, with 401Mb, and
DH1, Apps, with 2207 Mb,
installed AmigaSys 4 Aga, the cd rom and have installed again OS3.9. It finishes installation and after that... nothing! No boot... What I'm doing wrong?
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Re: Sandisk Ultra CF as Hardrive?
« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2010, 02:27:04 PM »
Sorry, I have no idea of AmigaDos. After the startup without startup-sequence I get to AmigaDos.
I've written both commands exactly as you said and it doesn't boot.
I've done it right because if I make it again it says :
Can't rename amigaos rom update as amigaos rom update.disabled because object not found
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Re: Sandisk Ultra CF as Hardrive?
« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2010, 03:20:02 PM »
I'm going to try to install 3.1, cd and 3.9 alone to see how it goes. I can reinstall ASys later.
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Re: Sandisk Ultra CF as Hardrive?
« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2010, 04:04:28 PM »
It's done and doesn't boot. Used the commands again and nothing...
It has to be a problem with the partitions, or what?
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Re: Sandisk Ultra CF as Hardrive?
« Reply #13 on: May 14, 2010, 04:35:48 PM »
I've been reading and it seems I have to use the Smart File System archive to manage the HD...?
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Re: Sandisk Ultra CF as Hardrive?
« Reply #14 on: May 14, 2010, 11:05:16 PM »
Hi, I'm back here.
Yes I did and if I open it with the Install disk I can see with HDtools it's marked bootable.
 
I read this somewhere:
"Fixed it
I have my 60 giga harddrive running on the 1200..
used a 2.5. > 3.5 convertor and formated the hd on Amigaforever on the pc.
Then a installed Os3.9 from cd on the A1200.
Runs like a charm now At last...
I have now 3 partitions dh0: FFS 1giga, DH1: SFS 1giga and DH2: SFS 53,9 giga"
 
I'm going to try now, although have no idea
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