The Os 3.1.4 Thread

[kolla]

There is NO 68000 distro....

Well, once you add accelerator card with 020+, you can also move to a different kickstart - I have one reason, and one reason only for using CGFx (v4), and that is CVPPC. Anyways, would it not be easier to just provide a legacy kickstart image for (the few) CGFx users, than requiring everyone else to meddle with startup-sequence and double-boot and potentially waste precious chipram? Oh well, making custom kickstarts is easy enough.

[kolla]

I deal with this type of issue all the time in my day job, "dumbing things down" is a necessary evil if you want your support staff and costs to stay sane.

So tell them to use Windows, where the dumbing down is already done.
There is no "support staff" for Amiga and Joe Average is not Amiga user anyways.

I still have not seen any description on _how_ one can end up with control gadgets becoming unreachable if windows can be resized larger than screen size.

[kolla]

@outlawal2

Hm, wasn't it you who told me to stop wasting everyone's time? Well well...

[kolla]

I'm sure romsplit will be updated, and then you can easily change the copyright notice in exec.library yourself with a binary capable editor.
Of course, doing so is breaking the terms of use considerably

[kolla]

Meh.



In comparison to shell v45 that does not throw "CONSOLE:" requesters when running scripts with pipes in the background.

This, along with the failat/abort bug, makes the shell in OS 3.1.4 really annoying to make script for.

[kolla]

@wmaciv

You need to isolate the problem...

Does it only happen with 3.1.4 programs on 3.1.4 kickstart, or also with 3.1 programs on 3.1.4 kickstart and/or 3.1.4 programs on 3.1 kickstart?

You write "lock up and guru" - so what is the guru? Same every time?

[kolla]

You should update ToolsDaemon, and it will work fine with new workbench.library
http://aminet.net/package/util/boot/ToolsDaemon22

[kolla]

Yes, it's easier to plug bits and pieces of Amiga OS 3.9 (+BB2/3/4) ontop of 3.1.4 than vice versa. As bonus, you then also avoid the mostly useless diskfilling bloat and "bling" of 3.9.

Sadly they conflict here and there though, such as IPrefs and locale string IDs, at least. My work-around has been to make locale:catalogs/mylang/3.9, fill them with catalog files  from catalogs/mylang/sys of 3.9, and then binary edit the 3.9 binaries to look there. Or vice versa.

[kolla]

What is a "netprinter prefs" (I do not know such a program, nor is it part of 3.1.4.)?

You ask people to hunt Aminet for your own stuff to "complete" 3.1.4, but you are incapable of searching Aminet for "netprinter" yourself?

http://aminet.net/package/comm/tcp/NetPrinter

[kolla]

What do you think I am? Your private service agent?

Certainly not.

Programmer, customer-care and technical support in one person?

Yes you are, by your own decision, that's apparently how you want things to be.

But that's all beside the point - which is that there are possibly compatibility issues with OS 3.1.4 print system and netprinter, which you easily could have found on Aminet, instead of pretending that you cannot be bothered.

[kolla]

Note that 3.1.4 is not building upon 3.9 (nor 3.5), but developed on top of 3.1 as a new "branch". Therefore it would not make sense to give it a revision number which increases from .9 (like .14). Some of the features which were in 3.5/3.9 have (if I understand correctly) been redeveloped "from scratch" on top of 3.1 for 3.1.4. But in its nature it is an update of 3.1.

That's not entirely correct, as certain components - and I would rather say, core components - such as Workbench (workbench.library), the CLI (shell-seg) and quite a few others, are direct descendants of OS 3.5/3.9, and certainly not developed "from scratch" for OS 3.1.4. It was all about what was available legally and practically to develop from. In many ways, OS 3.1.4 complements OS 3.9, as it has focused on components that did not see any changes from OS 3.1 to 3.9.

[kolla]

Well, duh. I noticed that I needed max transfer settings pretty much right away half a year ago, but you insisted on calling me a liar and conspiracy theorist, and whatnot when I mentioned the problem.

[kolla]

I would suggest release early release often.

Impossible!

[kolla]

The actual property owners have no rights? Remember that Hyperion is developing under a license - who grants them this license? Oh yes, that would be "the parties", which Hyperion are now in dispute with. Licensed rights can very well be revoked.

[kolla]

It's only perpetual for as long as the licensee fulfills their obligations. Hyperion broke their obligations numerous times, and continue to do so.

[kolla]

So then OS 3.1.4 is not an update of OS 3.1, but a new OS developed by Hyperion.