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Offline kolla

Re: Hyperion announces OS 3.1 update
« Reply #44 from previous page: April 21, 2018, 07:14:35 PM »
Wasn't AmigaOS built on other systems most of its lifespan anyways? :)
What I find ironic here is that ThoR uses Linux, of all things, to get work done.
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Offline kolla

Re: Hyperion announces OS 3.1 update
« Reply #45 on: April 21, 2018, 09:44:34 PM »
Why? Because you typically bring out Linux as something you really dislike, and despite claiming that AmigaOS doesn't "fit" open source models, your entire build environment relies on open source. No open source, no AmigaOS development. That is irony.
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Offline kolla

Re: Hyperion announces OS 3.1 update
« Reply #46 on: April 21, 2018, 09:59:05 PM »
Wonder if OS 3.1.4 will use AROS code for a certain component, like OS 3.9 does :)
« Last Edit: April 21, 2018, 10:07:05 PM by kolla »
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Offline kolla

Re: Hyperion announces OS 3.1 update
« Reply #47 on: April 22, 2018, 11:18:13 PM »
Quote from: Thomas Richter;838669
Concerning Linux: I believe I told you very well what I dislike about it, namely that the developers - insead of stabilizing the platform - continue to re-invent new solutions for old problems that have long been solved. Linux makes programmers happy - not users. I do not want this to happen with AmigaOs.

Who are these unhappy Linux users you speak of? Apart from yourself, a programmer.

Your fear that AmigaOS will make programmers happy is rather funny - have you not noticed yet, that programmers left a long time ago? I *wish* for an AmigaOS that would make programmers happy, so they could come back. Happy programmers are a must if you want happy users. If you ONLY want happy Amiga users, you should work with people of bling-bling distros like ApolloOS, AmiKit, BetterWB, ClassicWB etc.

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X11 vs. Wayland. Cups vs. lpr. Alsa vs. jack. initv vs. systemd. A lot of wasted resources.

You mean X11 vs. SunView, Athena vs Motif, MIR vs Wayland, IPP vs LPD, ALSA vs. OSS, JACK vs PulseAudio, sysv init (+ openrc and many others) vs systemd - why stop here? Linux vs. UNIX, GNU vs BSD, Windows vs MacOS, Atari vs Amiga... oh, talking about wasting resources - MorphOS vs OS4 vs AROS, CGFx vs P96, AS225 vs AmiTCP vs Miami vs Roadshow, BGUI vs. gtlayout vs. MUI vs ClassAct vs whatever, Reqtools vs ASL vs ...

The goal of re-inventing the wheel is obviously to get a better wheel, sometimes that happens, other times not.
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Offline kolla

Re: Hyperion announces OS 3.1 update
« Reply #48 on: April 22, 2018, 11:38:28 PM »
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I'm accepting that a build done on any POSIX system through vamos is now part of the process of building the 68k Amiga operating system. Irony be damned ;)


Again, that is not what I find ironic, lots of AmigaOS work was done on SunOS anyways.

What I find ironic, is that of all the systems out there to use, ThoR uses Linux, an OS kernel he never fails to go out of his way to bash around (presumably after being butt-hurt over his own kernel code stopped working as he failed to maintain it over time - a concept the Linux project strives for, keeping upper layer programmers happy rather than kernel coders). You would think ThoR would be much happier with a more conservative and less change-happy environment, such as most of the BSDs are.
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Offline kolla

Re: Hyperion announces OS 3.1 update
« Reply #49 on: May 14, 2018, 07:06:58 PM »
Now that I have an Amiga system with 4 devices hanging from the IDE port, and rely on IDEFix for them to at all show up - will the OS 3.1.4 scsi.device support 2 IDE channels out of the box, or will IDEFix97 (Or IDEMax??) scsi.device (119.16?) still be needed?

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A1200/Blz1230III/32MB
A1200/ACA1221
A600/V600v2/Subway USB
A600/Apollo630/32MB
A600/A6095
CD32/SX32/32MB/Plipbox
CD32/TF328
A500/V500v2
A500/MTec520
CDTV
MiSTer, MiST, FleaFPGAs and original Minimig
Peg1, SAM440 and Mac minis with MorphOS