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Offline kolla

Re: Matzes a1k.org Graphics Adapter...
« on: May 12, 2016, 02:11:24 PM »
If the P96 authors care so much, it is about damn time they start _do_ something, and not just whine about it. Lawsuits already!
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Offline kolla

Re: Matzes a1k.org Graphics Adapter...
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2016, 02:36:40 PM »
There is more pleasure to be found in bitching about it than settling it once and for all. Various similar court cases that have been settled suggest that P96 authors have very little legal ground to stand on when it comes to third party drivers made simply by studying how their own drivers function and operate. They can be unhappy and whine about it by proxy as much as they want, but it only puts themselves in a bad light.

Instead of all this mindboggling nonsense, they _could_ have chosen a different route, to be supportive, to open up P96 for anyone to use and develp for, and set up a donation account for people who simply want to show their gratitude. They could chose to become "good guys" in Amiga world and even make some money from it. But nah, that would mean changing attitude, and if there is one thing old grumpy amiga developers are not good at, it is changing attitudes.
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Offline kolla

Re: Matzes a1k.org Graphics Adapter...
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2016, 11:14:44 AM »
Quote from: grond;808399
I believe it's more a case of irrational behaviour caused by hurt feelings because the work, skill and idealism that went into picasso was never recognised. And then doing something takes more effort than just ignoring the entire situation.


Legally, nothing has to be done. Anyone who wants can legally develop drivers without using the original DDK and distribute them as they see fit. An effort could be put into making a third party open and available DDK for P96, based on studying and reverse engineering existing drivers, and legally there is nothing the original authors can do about it (though I would love to see them try.)
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Offline kolla

Re: Matzes a1k.org Graphics Adapter...
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2016, 03:09:31 PM »
I am lost - what happened before between Apollo team and P96 authors? Has the Vampire2 existed long enough to make the P96 authors grumpy already? Hilarious.
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Offline kolla

Re: Matzes a1k.org Graphics Adapter...
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2016, 12:59:05 AM »
Clearly they enjoy their position as one of the many Amiga hostage takers, I have zero understanding for their attitudes. Chris Hodges was in a similar position with Poseidon, and came to a much more productive conclusion.
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Offline kolla

Re: Matzes a1k.org Graphics Adapter...
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2016, 08:16:56 PM »
When it comes to FPGA systems (and emulators), many (maybe even most) users are not at all interested in RTG, heck, many aren't even interested in Amiga.
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