Best TCP Software

[kolla]

I recently installed RoadShow demo, and boy was it intrusive! It only left som documents in the drawer I appointed it to, and installed everything all over sys: :eek:

I mean - assigns, path - why not use them!

[kolla]

Support? Has Olsen given any signs that he intends to support it further?

And you can buy it here - http://www.amigashop.org/product_info.php?products_id=200

[kolla]

Olaf "Olsen" Barthel is an active user of this forum.

http://www.amiga.org/forums/member.php?u=897

His last activity is today which is a pretty good sign. He has supported the Amiga for decades which is also a pretty good sign. The Amiga is not his primary job so he can be busy at times but he is as helpful and professional as he can be considering the current Amiga situation. Classic Amiga development and support is more of a hobby and labor of love these days than anything else .

Yeah, but look at Roadshow, it took like 10 years for him to "wrap it up" and get it out. And he has other projects too, like CygnusEd. And Term, hehe. And gtlayout.library. At least there are some sources for those available, though perhaps not the latest.

[kolla]

Everybody likes to point out that Miami is slow, nobody care to ask why. Holger wanted to bring networking on Amiga further, he even had a bit of a plan on how to do this, optimizing for sana2 was not his focus, sana2 falls short quickly in modern scenaries, so he developed MNI as a suggestion as a path forward. However, his dreadfully slow tcp-stack that noone really should want to use, was heavily pirated. And he, like so many with him, thought of Amiga as a "market" rather than what it is, so he got delusioned and angry, and left Miami behind. Miami could have been awesome, it could have been the standard TCP stack for Amiga. But no, because, delusions.

[kolla]

Because Roadshow was intended to ship as part of the next AmigaOS update, say 2001-2002. It is a part of AmigaOS4. I did not want to go the same route as AmiTCP or Miami. The TCP/IP stack should be integrated into the operating system and become practically invisible.

But on any platform you would use Roadshow 68k on, it clearly is not part of the OS, and that much is obvious! The least you could do is to give the user options, to carpet bomb sys: with files and directories, or a more conservative approach.

The default installation puts Roadshow on the boot partition, along with a short script which is called from "S:User-Startup". But, as these things are, you can put the Roadshow components wherever you believe they should go. There are no hard-coded paths, except for the icon default tools.

Of course, and I had to manually move things after the initial jaw dropping experience.

Also, I did my best to make the Roadshow installer script not only put the files where they are, you can also uninstall all of them again with the installer. The only thing that is not as easily uninstalled is the addition to the S:User-Startup script.

Noone expect that to work, hehe.

[kolla]

Yes, I have. Repeating it here

That said, I have been working on an update for a while which I have not yet released. It's mostly small bug fixes for now. Because my A600HD test machine croaked I will have to test the recent changes to Roadshow on WinUAE, I suppose

Question is if "winuaenet.device" works on a plain emulated 68000 system. If I remember correctly, "a2065.device" does not work on a plain 68000 system, so I cannot go the route of having WinUAE emulate the hardware.

I use Roadshow a little with MIST and Minimig, null-modem cable with RPi, or wirelessly over bluetooth to Linux or OSX and it works ok.

[kolla]

I think you're blowing it out of all proportion here. There really isn't that many files, seriously. They're not scattered here there and everywhere either.
I'm very strict upon which installs scripts I allow to run on my Amiga, and I have no problem at all with Roadshow in this regard.

Well, but you are not me

One thing is for sure, AmigaOS directory structures do not make much sense anymore :laughing:

[kolla]

Well, we're not You are correct.
Have you tried Expert user instead of Novice user while installation in order to avoid intrusion?
For me, personally, Novice user is the most difficult

Yes, I always use expert, I don't even think of it, it's a reflex

Anyways, that is the only issue I had with Roadshow, it works really well.