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Offline kolla

Re: MorphOS on Power Mac G5
« Reply #14 from previous page: August 07, 2010, 11:50:00 AM »
Quote from: the_leander;573719
If the X1000 flops, it is likely that it will spell the end of the line for OS4.
I suppose this is why A-eon is a seperate comany, so that Hyperion can live on after A-eon has folded, but for the sake of argument - what will happen to OS3.x and OS4 sources when Hyperion folds?

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Two words: Driver support.
Without it, all the "potential" is just talk.


Driver development can keep the few developers busy for years and years. For these small developer groups it only makes sense to support a very limited set of cards. I remember when QSSL was trying to push neutrino to the "geekhood", they failed for several reasons:

* lack of drivers
* closed developing model, "anyone" could not just develop drivers
* way too few developers internally at QSSL to deal with above problem
* way too little hardware internally at QSSL to deal with above problem (I helped the pcmcia ethernet card developer, appearantly I myself had more cards availably than he did)
* some clever person ported gtk to photon and everyone got busy bringing gtk apps to neutrino instead of creating native apps, with very mediocre results. Users quickly realized that there are better platforms for running gtk apps and left.

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Thanks to all the fighting, the vast majority of developers left the scene a long, long time ago.


That, and some other reasons
* limitations in the OSes that makes development painful
* limitations in the OSes that makes alot of software irrelevant to implement
* closed source OS with all that brings (for development of subsystems, drivers etc)
* the license model, you cannot do proper testing of your software on different hardware without paying new licenses (30 minutes is not enough)
* the "social contract" developing for these systems implies
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A4000/CS060/Mediator4000Di/Voodoo5/128MB
A1200/Blz1260/IndyAGA/192MB
A1200/Blz1260/64MB
A1200/Blz1230III/32MB
A1200/ACA1221
A600/V600v2/Subway USB
A600/Apollo630/32MB
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CD32/SX32/32MB/Plipbox
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A500/V500v2
A500/MTec520
CDTV
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Offline kolla

Re: MorphOS on Power Mac G5
« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2010, 05:06:08 PM »
Quote from: Krashan;573775
What is this "social contract"?


You have to be "socially compatible" with the other people developing the system you're developing for, and be able to merge into the existing group. For application developers this is not such a big issue, but if you want to develop OS components and bring the system further, it very much is.

For MorphOS this means you have to suck up to Laire, play alot of Quake online, laugh at OS4 "progress", maintain a list of people that are uncapable, praise MUI, ridicul Reaction and anything from OS3.5+ (yet support it, just for kicks), sort me under "trolls" and much more. :lol:

On Linux and BSD this is much easier, as there are so many camps to join and if none fits already, nothing prevents you from starting your own.
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A3000/060CSPPC+CVPPC/128MB + 256MB BigRAM/Deneb USB
A4000/CS060/Mediator4000Di/Voodoo5/128MB
A1200/Blz1260/IndyAGA/192MB
A1200/Blz1260/64MB
A1200/Blz1230III/32MB
A1200/ACA1221
A600/V600v2/Subway USB
A600/Apollo630/32MB
A600/A6095
CD32/SX32/32MB/Plipbox
CD32/TF328
A500/V500v2
A500/MTec520
CDTV
MiSTer, MiST, FleaFPGAs and original Minimig
Peg1, SAM440 and Mac minis with MorphOS