Aos 3 -> aos 4

[commodorejohn]

I hope some developers make a new m68k microprocessor. I still like single-core CISC. :hammer:

Me too 68k might not be up to modern standards these days, but it's still a lot of fun to code for.

[commodorejohn]

Blah, blah, blah. There are hardware requirements. Some games does not run on 512 KB Amigas. Probably they are not Amiga games by your definition.

Except that "classic Amiga" has always had a fairly definite definition to the community, to wit: original Amiga machines (1000-4000) running on 68k. Labeling another version of a PPC-only OS as "classic" is just another example of how tuned out from the community Hyperion are.

Defensive? I point obvious mistakes that are always brought to the forums, but as long as you have your AmigaOS 3 machine sitting next to your PC or Mac, I guess you don't need to upgrade.

Nope, guess I don't!

Oh look, there are sheep here as well :-)

"OS4: even sheep won't buy it!"

[commodorejohn]

Either way I wanted to read each users explanation and not some conclution from you or anyone else.

So...you want our explanations, but not our conclusions? How does that work?

[commodorejohn]

I don't want anything from you since you got nothing to add. Your just showing what a sad little person you are and you are too stupid to realize that. Sorry but that's the way I see it. You haven't written one line worth of reading.

The famous MOS nutcases... what a sad community...

So...what, you asked for my opinion when you didn't actually want it? Right, that makes sense.

(Also, I'm not a MorphOS user or advocate - I'm 68k all the way. And if I were going to switch to PPC, it'd be on Linux or Haiku. I just feel that, you know, $1000 for hardware that underperforms a $100 used Mac is a bit ridiculous, and by "a bit" I mean "a lot." But I guess you're not going to read this, since you apparently never wanted the opinions you asked for at the start of the thread...)

[commodorejohn]

Well good for you! Great! I'm happy that your happy, but I needed ONE answer because I asked ONE question.

That's funny...I kinda figured you needed ten answers, because you asked the same question ten times...

If you got nothing to add stop? Just a suggestion.

Right back at ya, pal ;P

[commodorejohn]

I can't believe this thread is still chugging along!
If the original intent was to sell some OS3.X users on the advantages of OS4 its failed miserably.

Hilariously so.

So... you're one of those bully wanna-be but you're a little nerd that can't take it outdoors so instead you try your best here? Awww, that is so sad.

I love how as soon as people start posting unflattering sentiments about OS4 with detailed reasoning, it becomes "bullying." It shouldn't be a great surprise that when you ask people who don't use OS4 why they don't use OS4, you're going to get some negative opinions of OS4.

Hahaha, oh man, you can't stop writing...

For being done with this thread, you're awfully chatty

[commodorejohn]

The interesting part of this thread is that the serious people has answered and left and the... well... crap is left . This is just pure amusement to me. Stupid comments from little unsecure people. Good fun .

Well I'm glad you're having as much fun as I am, because if there's one thing I ain't, it's insecure I'm quite brazen about my opinions, flawed or not.

I am chatty compared to who?

You're chatty for someone who's "done with this thread" - you've only made... *checks* seven posts after you said that ;p

How about less crap and more to the point then? Not that it matters now since I guess your point are there somewhere in all of what you've written but I guess that I wouldn't care since I can see what kind of person you are.

Help me out here: how much more to-the-point could we possibly get?

Is that the hobby in your lifes? Try AOS 4, it is much more fun

Buy me a Cyberstorm and a copy of OS4 and I will

[commodorejohn]

No it is not clear why you continue to write, I've read your opinions so you can go do something else. But for some reason you can't, can you?

I can, I just don't want to, because I find this exchange highly entertaining. Pass the popcorn!

Oh you can buy my CyberStormPPC but I doubt you can afford it.

Hence my entire point.

If only someone could weave a love story through the middle of it (besides the love of the original OS and hardware), it would be an instant box office success.

He's an avant-garde painter.
She's a rock singer who helped popularize rap.
Caught in the middle of the collapse of a tech-industry giant, can they save their relationship?
Coming this summer to a theater near you:
AMIGA: The Warhol/Harry Story.

[commodorejohn]

Oh, then your point has changed. From nothing to nothing... not bad. Are you typing while eating popcorn? Good thing you don't have a machine runing aos 4 on it, poor thing. Not you, the machine.

Actually, my point (to wit: too freaking expensive) has been completely constant throughout this entire thread, but there seems to be some sort of spacetime anomaly between the Amiga.org server and your computer that is rearranging the text in my posts so as to make it appear that I have been saying entirely different things.

Because it couldn't be that you're just being willfully ignorant, no sir...

[commodorejohn]

Yes because I don't know how many times I've written that I've read you point and yet you go on writing commets that are so boring that it almost puts me to sleep. It doesn't take 30 replys to write that the current hardware for AOS 4 are too expensive in your opinion. You're lying,  you know it, grow up, do something else.

I read your point the first time, I didn't ask you for some explanation in 30 following replies, you replied anyway because you're an asshole. That is the real and only truth and you aren't even man enough to admit it. Do you see why I think that you are a sad person now?

Wait, you think I'm lying about having restated my same point while at the same time accusing me of restating my same point? I have to investigate these new paradox powers I've suddenly developed...

Also, I freely admit to being an asshole and have never made any secret of my assholery.

[commodorejohn]

And your whole "assholery" is your only purpose of typing in this thread and it has allways been been your purpose and that is why I give you the answers that I do. As simple as that and you know it. And that is the sad part.

Not so! I was completely sincere for the first ten posts, and even after that it hasn't been my sole purpose, just one of 'em - I still maintain complete sincerity about my point even while I snicker derisively at your inability to stop responding.

[commodorejohn]

If you guys are this bad with only the SAMs to tout (unless you count the Pegasos, a  MorphOS machine, which is your highest performer), how bad is it going to get when the X1000 is finally introduced?
If a G5 Mac outperforms it, can you get whinier still?

Ooh, I hope we get some benchmarks. I'm gonna laugh myself sick if a $2200 custom box is outperformed by a five-year-old computer you can get for $100-450.
(Or $30-375, if you're willing to take a banged-up case. Says a lot about Apple fans that that's a viable discount approach!)

Edit: Okay, I looked up PA6T benchmarks, and it's going to depend on whether you're using a dual-core/dual-processor Mac or not - still, if you are, it looks like you can outdo that brank-spanking-new X1000 with a $150 used Mac by 25%, as far as DMIPS/MHz goes!

(P.S. Yes, I know that that's not the be-all and end-all of performance measurements - but until the X1000 moves from "real soon now" to "actually out, finally" then it'll just have to do.)

[commodorejohn]

Anyone want to buy a slightly scuffed dual 2.0GHz G5 PowerMac?

Damn, now you ask! I've got an older model on the way, and I was just going to remove the Brutalist cheese grater from the exterior and put on some nice relaxing plywood anyway...

Then again, I suppose you wouldn't be taking $75 off a $100 price tag for having a dinged case now, would you

[commodorejohn]

Have fun with your old macs. Oh and lets hope that the old and slow gfxcards doesn't break, a new is expensive. The same goes for the cpu and even the clock battery.

A new AGP 8x card can be had for as little as $30 - my P4 desktop is using a NOS GeForce 7600 that I got for $60. That's, let's see...2.7% of the cost of an X1000, or 6% the cost of a SAM 460...yeah, it would totally be a disaster if the video card broke, all right.

[commodorejohn]

It's AGP Pro, which is an official extension to the standard, and it's backwards-compatible with normal AGP. Apple shipped it with (barely) custom cards, but it will work with standard AGP.

Also, I'm seeing a number of AGP Pro cards on Google Product Search for $15-20, so...nope, not seeing this whole "expensive" thing.

[commodorejohn]

I will, thanks!