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Offline OlafS3

Quote from: Iggy;754645
Actually, if it had been up to Paul Gentle at Varisys, the X1000 would have had a Qorlq processor (like its sucessor will).
The choice of processors seems heavily influenced by Hyperion and the previous annoucements of Ack Systems and Amiga Incorporated.
But we all benefit by the delay in moving to this line as it has matured and now has features that rival (and in some cases, surpass) the PA6T.

This will still not be a cheap board.
Even if we were to move to a completely zero profit, community driven model we would not bring the price of a similar design down significantly.

That is just how it is.
AND...that being said, I personally have always wanted an X1000, I will try to budget to afford its sucessor, and I wish Trevor and Paul all the luck in the world with this venture.

Expensive? Yes, but isn't it cool?

Cool? In what sense? Because of PPC?
 

Offline OlafS3

Re: ACube and A-EON announce One Vision on future Amiga co-operation
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2013, 05:41:33 PM »
Quote from: spirantho;754646
Finally, someone speaks the way I think. :)
If you want something out of the ordinary, you have to pay out of the ordinary prices.


I will propably never understand why PPC is so cool...
 

Offline OlafS3

Re: ACube and A-EON announce One Vision on future Amiga co-operation
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2013, 05:54:33 PM »
No i only program in high-level languages and am not programming in assembler (and no intention to either).

I respect it that some people think that way even if I personal do not understand it. My last "real" Amiga had a 68030, every other processor is the same to me. You program Assembler on your PPC?
 

Offline OlafS3

Re: ACube and A-EON announce One Vision on future Amiga co-operation
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2013, 01:48:14 PM »
What TMHG propably means it is simply crazy to build custom hardware based on PPC in 2013. It was perhaps a good choice in the nighties but today it is completely unrealistic. Propably (from my point of view despite the efforts needed) MorphOS team will change to ARM or X86/X64 too. AROS is already there. Hyperion and e-on will stick on PPC forever because expecially Hyperion has no resources for the needed change and they would expect someone else to pay for the port (what nobody will do, propably not even Trevor). What the choice of processor... I am self-employed and have to do with small to medium companies, for a company it is critical to easily replace broken hardware, one reason why this hobby system would have no chance to be sold to professionals (besides of price, missing software and so on).

Hardware creation (including needed drivers) is expensive and complex, one reason why custom hardware is not competitive today. Custom hardware only makes sense if it offers real customer value, X1000 or similar does not offer that (at least for the vast majority of potential buyers) and is much too expensive (and "much" is here the polite phrase). I had contact to a number of former amiga-developers (mostly former AmigaOS users) who gave up after the old hardware broke and were not very happy about the strategy and direction. It is a pity that people leave the platform completely instead of changing to MorphOS or AROS.
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