Amiga guilt and time distortion.

[runequester]

So, can you point to a single post that says "x86 solves everything"?  What you did was a classic strawman argument combined with passive aggressive complaining.

So you did understand what I posted. Why did you pretend otherwise then?


As for a post saying exactly those 3 words? Probably not. History showed thats how it actually worked out though.

The sentiment? Its common enough that the poster immediately above me is familiar. As are others that have posted in the thread.
Again, you know damn well what I am talking about. Playing this little "I'll keep moving goal posts until I seem to win something" game is tedious in the slightest.


If you are still sore about the CUSA thing.. let it go. If you think my posting is somehow disruptive to the site, report me to the mod's.

[runequester]

when I said I enjoyed many new users comments lately, RuneQuester was at the top of my list. I don't always agree with his stance (in this thread for one), but his threads always provoke the most interesting conversations.

I appreciate it mate And better luck on the next thread.

[runequester]

In this thread runequester is making assumptions about the mental health of people who disagree with his zealous attitudes, obviously trawling for undeserved attention (which I regretfully give him, along with everyone else who facepalmed themselves to a headache).

I love you too

[runequester]

I love how wanting to have amiga discussions without them negative piss fests apparently makes me a zealot for...something.

Amusingly i was the one posting a while back that an amiga desktop environment based on linux would make sense. Nearly got my head bitten off too

[runequester]

This needs it's own thread. Runequester...you know what to do!

Given my new found status as an attentionwhoring 68K zealot, i'll have to overcome my inner turmoil and self loathing first

i'll post something tonight and lay out some thoughts. Sadly i have zero ability to code anything but pipe dreams are fun

[runequester]

Acknowledging that many newer operating systems and hardware architectures are superior to the Amiga in most regards mostly don't start any "negative piss fests." You don't seem to understand that people don't have to share your opinion on the matters you brought up in the original posts. Be reasonable and show some humility! After all, just because this is a discussion forum about the Amiga doesn't mean that people have to unconditionally praise everything about it. We're all obviously here because we like the Amiga system for one reason or another, so why don't we just leave it at that?

 
We'll skip past the fact that you didn't actually read what I posted and get to the meat of the matter.
 
I like that to you there's no room between "68K IS THE HOLY GRAIL" and "PC's WERE ALWAYS TOTALLY AWESOME"
 
So since I don't fall universally in the latter, I must automatically fit in the former category.
 
So riddle me this: Why did I start a thread a few months back, speaking positively of the notion of a linux based "amiga like" OS, if I am such a die hard 68K zealot?

[runequester]

Actually, let me make it simpler for you two.
 
Here is the actual post I made on January 30th.
 
Care to read that and explain to me how I am an evil 68K zealot stuck in the past?
 
 
 

I am going to don my fireproof suit for this one

The way forward for "amiga" in my opinion, would be very close to what they are touting (but with the bonus of actual results, rather than fapping about on the internet)

Linux distribution with amiga-like UI parts added to it.

This assumes pouring some serious effort and money into the desktop environment to make it slick and nice. There's some options out there that could be used as springboards.

Advantages:
Hardware support. Linux supports more or less every bit of hardware out there, whereas AROS supports a fairly narrow (but rapidly expanding) range. Morph supports even less, and OS4 of course only runs on a few specific items.
And at the moment, it seems the only way we're going to get multiple core support, access to tons of RAM etc.

Architecture support. Linux runs on pretty much anything, whether its x86, powerPC, ARM, 68K or stranger stuff.

Application support. Lack of modern software is a serious limit to some of the current options. While some recompiling might be needed here and there, to look nice in the desktop environment, there'd be a wealth of modern, compatible options available right off the bat.
This also covers modern file systems etc.

Corporate support. Linux has a ton of corporate weight behind it, pushing development. While they would have no interest in the "amiga" UI, we'd still benefit from their kernel developments, etc.




Would it pass the "purity" test? Well, no. It's not a commodore product running on 68K. But it'd be as much amiga as morph or os4, and it'd actually have a way forward.


Thoughts? Flames? Hatred?

[runequester]

The shamefull truth is.. I use GEOS

[runequester]

I read it but disregarded most of it, because you don't seem to be able to express what is clearly a personal opinion without resorting to insulting remarks.

"I didn't read what you posted, but I am going to attack you based on what I think you wrote".
 
We're done here. Have a pleasant day.

[runequester]

I couldn't afford an ST so I started writing my own GUI in a compiled BASIC and got as far as the Mac/GEM style windows and pull down menus :roflmao:

In BASIC? Thats pretty rad

[runequester]

I misread your post. Apologies for that.
 
Here's my thing: Things aren't binary. Its okay to have a thread about amiga stuff, without the same old stuff being brought up again and again.
 
We all know that PC's turned out to be more powerful, capable and cost effective. Why repeat it every single time someone wants to talk about the A1200 or the proposed A1300 or whatever ?
It'd be like going to a classic car forum and talking about how much better your Prius is.
 
 
If the tone was not to your liking, I apologize.
If being tired of that stuff makes me a zealot or someone who doesn't want to hear other opinions, I guess I'll carry that badge.