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3.5/3.9 on 030?
« on: April 04, 2011, 03:38:55 AM »
So anyone have experience with running 3.5 or 3.9 on an 030 ?
 
Im tempted to get one of them once I get a second CF card to use as a second hard drive. For what its worth, the card I have is the ACA 030/56.
 

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Re: 3.5/3.9 on 030?
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2011, 04:10:19 AM »
Quote from: LoadWB;627540
I've run it on an 030. Works fine, though slower than an 040 or 060. But a 50MHz 030 runs it well enough.

I imagine it'll work decent on mine then
 

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Re: 3.5/3.9 on 030?
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2011, 05:24:52 AM »
yeah, thats the girl :)
 

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Re: 3.5/3.9 on 030?
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2011, 05:32:38 AM »
I'll need to see which I can find the easier and cheaper. It'd be interesting to test them side by side (3.1, 3.5 and 3.9)

My 3.1 install has very few tweaks to it, so it'd be a comparison of the "stock" options for a classic miggy (not counting 2.x and 1.x of course)
 

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Re: 3.5/3.9 on 030?
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2011, 02:35:06 AM »
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3.9 plus Boing Bag 4 on my 8MB A1200 with 50mhz 030 is faster than 3.5 running on the same machine.

Seriously?
 
Any idea why?
 
Do you have RTG or AGA?
 

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Re: 3.5/3.9 on 030?
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2011, 04:35:23 AM »
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3.9 is pretty much 3.5 with bug fixes and some _optional_ crap offered along with it. I seriously don't grasp all the "oh my, 3.9 is so slow" mantra that some people seem stuck with. The only thing that can slow down 3.9 compared to 3.5 is picture.datatype, which is a "fat" (powerpc and m68k) binary in 3.9, but which is also easily replaceable. Anyone with a pimped up 3.1/3.5 install would also replace picture.datatype anyhow.

ah, good to know.

I guess my concern was that one site (amigahistory or some such) stated that a "medium performance" system would have RTG, which I dont have, and likely won't in any near future.


I'll look for a CD then. I've gotten a 3.5 setup and really dig it, but I'd love to check out "the state of the art" as far as 68K goes. This is stuff I never even knew existed back in the day :)


As far as the optional crap, what all is included in terms of actual functionality?
In other words, what functionality does 3.9 provide over 3.5?
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Re: 3.5/3.9 on 030?
« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2011, 06:11:23 AM »
Quote from: mfilos;629456
To check the speed you can check one old test video of mine here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sYWUJIUyK4

It was done when I had 3.5, but now I replaced it with 3.9+BB4 plus a lot more stuff in a custom ROM that is kicked via MapROM.
Latest stuff like Cosmos scsi.device, exec.library, graphics.library etc and PeterK's Icon.library that supports even DualPNG icons without RTG... are full of win :)


Thanks :)

How much fuss was it to set up 3.9?

Bonus points for doing it without a CD ROM drive.

With 3.5, I managed to copy all the stuff to a compact flash card and run it from there. Worked great.
 

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Re: 3.5/3.9 on 030?
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2011, 06:16:58 AM »
Are you able to select or de-select the applications that it comes with?

I dont have any need for most of the extra app's and I already got wireless set up. I'd just be interested in the OS updates themselves.
 

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Re: 3.5/3.9 on 030?
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2011, 07:33:54 AM »
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I don't understand what you mean. What extra apps and what comes with?


Sorry, I can't string together a sentence tonight :)

What applications comes with 3.9 and are they installed automatically or can you choose?
 

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Re: 3.5/3.9 on 030?
« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2011, 08:53:32 AM »
I thought I had Fblit running and couldn't figure out why people were so fussed about it. It didn't do anything.


Then I realized I had put it wrong in the startup-sequence.. now it works quite nicely, and it certainly makes things snappier :)

Ftext didn't seem to be a huge difference but conserving chip ram is a good thing