Amiga vs PC

[Thorham]

It's quite amazing how everyone here keeps going on about how one shitty browser was better than another shitty browser... I see no reason why any peecee software couldn't have had a proper Amiga version, except for the fact that no companies cared to make it happen. Big deal. Blame Commodore's lame ass for not promoting the machine properly and not giving a damn.

As for the hardware: peecee's won simply because they kept being developed, while Amigas were milked, and then afterwards Commodore went bust. Compare Amigas and peecees from the early days of the Amiga, and stop comparing a machine which wasn't developed to it's fullest (AGA anyone?), to a machine which has been steadily improved up to this day. It's pointless, because we all know which one is going to win.

[Thorham]

So mature!

I always write peecee on Amiga fora, what's the big deal?

We weren't.

But... You'd actually have to bother to read what was being discussed to understand that rather than skim though like you just did.

Perhaps you're right, but you still missed the point, namely that discussions such as this aren't very useful, because comparing the Amiga to the peecee isn't very useful because of the history of both machines (second paragraph of my post).

On EAB there was something similarly pointless in the form of Amiga vs Atari ST. Great. And on a certain MSX forum there are people who will argue that MSX is better than Amiga/peecee/St/whatever. How mature is that?

[Thorham]

Typing more letters to get the same phonetic thing out makes you look dumb.

You're not serious, right? Oh man...

First someone who thinks it immature to write 'peecee', now someone who thinks it dumb because he doesn't understand :lol:

Here's the explanation: 'peecee' is similar to 'M$', 'Winblows XPee' and 'Linsux'. Get it? I sure hope so...

[Thorham]

PeeCee is just you trying to be cool.

No, I'm not trying to be cool

I think you're done.

I am indeed done with these useless posts

[Thorham]

Still doesn't invalidate Arkhan's original assessment. It doesn't matter WHY you're doing it, you still look dumb doing it.

The word 'peecee' is just a derogatory term for PC, nothing more, and I don't know why using it makes me look dumb in some peoples eyes, especially not seeing how this is an Amiga forum

Actually, people who say that someone looks dumb because they're using a term such as 'peecee' on an Amiga board, need to look at themselves first, instead of pointing fingers at others.

Really, this makes no sense at all to me. Now, if I were to use this term on other forums I visit which have nothing to do with Amigas, such as VeggieBoards, then it's used completely out of context, and then it's indeed plain stupid.

The bottom line: I'll never stop using 'peecee' in context, whether some people think it's stupid or not

[Thorham]

I only point the finger at dumb people, so I'd never have to point at myself.

If you can't say it everywhere and have it be legit, odds are its a waste of time and you're being a tard.

Nothing like willful stupidity!

If you think I'm dumb then I can happily live that

[Thorham]

Yet noone bitches about having to use WHDLoad on newer Amigas

Of course not, why would they :confused: WHDLoad removes the need for floppies, and is a massive improvement over how it used to.

[Thorham]

Now?

Now I see the same counterarguments being offered by the remaining Amiga users.  "You don't need this, that or the other".  Sheesh.  Sad, really.

Ha ha ha, you got that that right :lol: It is still very sad that Commodore screwed up what could've still been the best machine.

Anyway, I'll keep using this wonderful machine until I can't get any second hand ones anymore (that will be a very sad day indeed), and use my peecee for surfing (Amiga browsers suck donkey balls) and a few other things, because Amigas (real Amigas, not those PPC+peecee parts things) have a coolness factor that the peecee will never beat.

Amiga forever

[Thorham]

Real people! Friends!  Things your ignorant ass seems to think I don't have.

Considering how you behave, it's no wonder that people might think that :p

[Thorham]

my usual yardstick for comparing amiga and pc sound is Turrican 2 vs Doom.

Doom uses midi, which (almost) always sounds like crap, and Doom also sounds like crap on the Amiga :p

[Thorham]

I still only had an Amiga at home until 2000 though. At some point an 68030 doesn't cut it anymore and faster hardware is too expensive.

Depends on what you do with your computer. I know a guy from another forum who still swears by Amigas, and doesn't have/want/need a peecee because he hates the things.

[Thorham]

Ha ha ha, way to go guys And they call me stupid for using the term 'peecee' :lol: The advantage is that I at least know who not to take seriously around here

[Thorham]

yourself?

I don't always take myself too seriously

[Thorham]

Those who insist on defending the idea that original Amigas are a potential alternative to modern computers:

They can be, but it depends on what you do with them. Some people happily only use classic hardware, and nothing else. I know a guy who hates peecees, and he won't get one, so he sticks with his A1200+'030. He has to use peecees at work, and thinks that is enough peecee use for him Somewhere I can't really blame him, and the only thing I'd miss would be Opera and some old peecee games (I have an old 667 Mhz Pentium 3 here), such as Diablo 2 LOD, Warcraft 2, Starcraft Broodwar, and some others.

Side note: I see classic Amigas as modern machines, new peecees are simply much faster, but that's all they are, faster. Compare 70ties and earlier computing to the 80ties/90ties and later, and you'll get a good idea of why I think this

Why would anyone posting to this thread take themselves too seriously?

:lol:

[Thorham]

These are all tangible benefits for most users. Let's face it, the Amiga as a hardware platform is not modern.

What is it then? An antique? No, a Cray 1 is antique, or all the other machines that came before it. In the 80ties computing changed. Nice and simple machines that you plug in and can use. That is modern is to me. In this sense new computers are just more of the same and nothing else.

The modern era of computing didn't start a few years ago, but a few decades. Don't confuse power and extended features with modernity, it's about the essence.

A good example is modern medicine. It's not a couple of years old, but started a relatively long time ago. Sure we have more advanced techniques today, but medicine 50 years ago was already modern, and it could be argued that it was decades before.

It's easy to call something not modern because it doesn't perform as well as machines of today

Try running AROS, amithlon or even just UAE on a current "peecee" and tell me you don't find any advantages at all.

Yeah, it will be faster. If I want speed, then I'll just do it on my peecee. To me it's about using an Amiga, and if I find something it won't do fast enough (or badly because of crappy software), then I'll use something else. Speed on my Amiga isn't all important too me, and my Blizzard '030 is fine (wouldn't use an '060 much, for example).