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Re: UAE for MorphOS
« Reply #14 from previous page: December 26, 2006, 08:02:48 PM »
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You CAN get Amiga virus's that stay on the system etc..

once there loaded up they stay there even without floppy or hd connected etc..

You can not. Such virus is not possible, at least not on Amiga hardware.

There is no media to store the virus to. The only memory that can hold information over power loss are:

a) Kickstart ROM, read only memory (cannot be written to)
b) Battery backed realtime clock, about 16 bytes of volatile memory (in which only certain bitpatterns are valid, and which updates constantly as clock is ticking).

Thus, it is not possible to have code embeded to system that will "stay" over power lossage.

You are wrong.
 

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Re: UAE for MorphOS
« Reply #15 on: December 26, 2006, 08:34:25 PM »
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how does the memory get onto th rom chips in the first place?

From the mask used to manufacture the ROM chips. The ROM is hardwired at manufacture time, there is absolutely no way to reprogram it. Next you're telling me that ROM can be written to?

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Im telling you m8. there is a virus that stays in the amiga when you turn of and on same stuff happens over and over again.

It is no virus. Such virus is not possible.

You claim you've fixed it with VirusZ. What is the name of the virus it finds?
 

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Re: UAE for MorphOS
« Reply #16 on: December 26, 2006, 10:29:08 PM »
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...and the name of the impossible virus is? :-)

Since you're so convinced this virus exists and have successfully "purged" it from A1200s effectively "fixing" the problem, surely you can name the virus? VirusZ or other virus killer cannot fix anything they don't know about. So, what is the name of the virus?

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YOU CAN GET AMIGA 1200 VIRUS's THAT EFFECT HARDWARE AND STAYS EVEN WHEN YOU TURN OFF AND ON OR LEAVE OFF FOR AGES

NO YOU CANNOT. SUCH VIRUS DOES NOT EXIST.

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proven wrong

You haven't proven me wrong.

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there are amiga hardware virus

Repeating these things over and over don't make them any more true. There is no such thing as "amiga hardware virus". That is a fact. It's trivial to prove aswell: There is no way to store the virus code anywhere in the amiga hardware.
 

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Re: UAE for MorphOS
« Reply #17 on: December 26, 2006, 10:49:25 PM »
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It will have hard time trying to emulate an A500 at full speed!

Agreed.

UAE in 320x240 without sound could not run Sanity Arte even remotely acceptable speed. Frameskip of 5 made it look closer to A500 speed, but frankly frameskip of any kind just sucks. And this was without audio...

EFIKA is surprisingly snappy for it's spec, but it for sure isn't very suitable for UAE.
 

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Re: UAE for MorphOS
« Reply #18 on: December 27, 2006, 01:13:48 PM »
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Im telling you you run this virus attatched to a file and it turns your amiga off with some nasty colours and then your amiga is broke.

Virus can't break the hardware, except by mechanical wear. It is possible to damage the floppy drive via software, for example (step the r/w-head like mad). It is not possible to break the hardware in the way you describe (missing colour components).

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TRUST ME

No-one trusts you. You are wrong and deliberately spreading misinformation. This isn't about trust anyway, but about facts.

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I dont know what its called

Well, obviously you can't, since it does not exist.
 

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Re: UAE for MorphOS
« Reply #19 on: December 27, 2006, 01:16:19 PM »
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Its like ne of them virus's that survives warm reset but worse.

Surviving warm reset is trivial. You either use CoolCapture/ColdCapture or KickTagPtr/KickMemPtr vectors in execbase.

There is absolutely NO way you can survice power off on std A1200.
 

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Re: UAE for MorphOS
« Reply #20 on: December 27, 2006, 03:34:33 PM »
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you can get amiga a1200 virus that effects hardware and screws your video up and it remains the same after turn off and on

earlier i was talking about virus z becuase it may help him but this virus nothing will help you apart from new motherboard.

It must knock out your video permanently.

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<^Paradox> i have had virus that does it
<^Paradox>  no way of removeing it unless run virus killer

<^Paradox> yeah has to be loaded with a file in the 1st place but once it loaded your {bleep}ed
<^Paradox>  unsolvable with out virus killer etc

<^Paradox>  alot of a1200 have been threw way due to this
<^Paradox>  simple fix with virus z

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Re: UAE for MorphOS
« Reply #21 on: December 27, 2006, 09:22:00 PM »
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you can get software that {bleep}s amiga hardware up just by clicking on the attached file

The only thing that can be broken via software is mechanical devices, such as the floppy drive. Even that requires considerable time (stressing the r/w head by moving it up/down track very fast).

You can't destroy amiga via software.
 

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Re: UAE for MorphOS
« Reply #22 on: December 27, 2006, 09:28:26 PM »
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software CAN damage amiga hardware

Other than mechanical parts (such as floppy drive r/w head), how?