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Re: Vampire 2 PPC & Morphos
« on: March 17, 2017, 06:09:27 PM »
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Please excuse my ignorance.

But is the Vampire 2 Card Capable or Could it be made Capable
of running OS 4 or Morphos.

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No, even when present in legacy systems, neither MorphOS or OS4 use the 68K cpu, running solely on the PPC cpu.
So installing both a Vampire2 and a PPC is kind of pointless, unless you are dual booting.
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Re: Vampire 2 PPC & Morphos
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2017, 10:35:54 PM »
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No/Yes.
No to your first question, yes to the second. But as of now the developers are not interested in making that happen. I think it would be great, others think it would be horrible:)


I don't think Gunnar is too keen on the idea either.
But adding a cheap PPC, or a second device/card with a PPC would allow the use of NG OS'.

What would be nice is if someone devised a way to run both cpus simultaneously.
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Re: Vampire 2 PPC & Morphos
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2017, 10:53:42 PM »
Actually, the RISC vs CISC argument is a bit more complicated than has been mentioned.
Each approach has its advantages, for instance, CISC can create denser code with a larger number of available instructions.

But frankly, I don't favor either approach right now, as long as it works, who cares how?
And some cpus are a hybrid of both concepts.
For some time now, AMD cpus have run X86/X64 instructions with a RISC core.

An Amiga with both an FPGA based 68K accelerator and a PPC processor would be ideal as it would allow us to run both legacy and NG code.
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Re: Vampire 2 PPC & Morphos
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2017, 10:57:51 PM »
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.. or grab an old G4 Mac from the garbage retail shop aka ebay for less than peanuts and install a current version of MorphOS on it. Maybe not as freaky as on a 80ies computer pimped with an FPGA, but way cheaper, straight forward and more powerful.

I really like Vampire and am considering to equip my A600 with one, but definitely not for MorphOS when there are actually fast machines available (which cost quite less than the very nice and fair priced Vampires).

Mmm, well that is a sound point until you get to the X5000. That is going to be costly whether it runs MorphOS or OS4.
But I don't see anything wrong with supporting both NG hardware and legacy hardware with FPGA accelerators.
The performance boost for legacy hardware will help make it relevant again.
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Re: Vampire 2 PPC & Morphos
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2017, 10:55:42 AM »
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why always this duty to support something? simply choose what you want to use.

Why choose? I have multiple systems.
And I am already running some 68K software on the PPC platforms.
As to Linux ports, I neither use nor support them.
The entire Libre Office idea seems foolish to me.
I DO support the idea of further development of Final Writer though.

And why move to more advanced hardware?
I've heard this argument before with RTG cards.
Because it works better.

If Amiga development had continued, we wouldn't question the idea.
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