MorphOS ahead of AROS?

[Iggy]

About 3D in AROS...

That is stunning!
What do you think legacy guys?
You can't match that with a "real" Amiga (unless you bought it from Barry Altman).

[Iggy]

Personally, I don't see what the obsession with single button Mac mice is about.
I have a two button PC mouse on My computer.
And, as I've mentioned before, most of my hardware didn't come from Apple (my keyboard, mouse, memory, CPU, hard drive, DVD drive, video card, sound card, & USB card all not Apple parts).
And the computer itself was bought as non-functioning surplus on Ebay for $17 plus shipping.
If I had to buy from Apple (at their outrageous prices) it wouldn't have been a consideration.
And btw, regardless of your prejudices, its well made hardware.

I've never liked Steve Jobs or Apple, but I REALLY like MorphOS on a PPC Mac and I'm not apologizing for that AND I don't want to move to X86 any time soon.

[Iggy]

Well, I'm not allowed to tell you details, but 3.0 can detect multitouch and utilizes them similar to MacOS10.5.

Whoa! Too cool!

[Iggy]

AROS doesn't need Linux, that's a user choice.

I question the sanity of a company that STILL has no G5 version of MOS. The last hope for MOS is to get G5 distro delivered ASAP and stop messing about with limp Mac Minis.

OS4 + X1000 was their only competition, and G5 Mac the only uncompromised PPC OSX machine (so you don't waste money and can still use the G5 Mac you bought even if you hated MOS). Clearly they have a technical barrier because only crazy people would miss such a business opportunity!

With no G5 version and no x86 migration plan MOS is third in the group IMO, at least OS4 for G5 exists and Aros has plentiful x86 hardware new and used available FOREVER.

I agreed with you up to that point I've highlighted.
"OS4 for G5 exists", Huh?

But you're right MorphOS for the G5 is a natural progression.
I've made plans to get one even if its never announced.

[Iggy]

All three NG Amiga platforms already have ports of MPlayer, which offers practically the same video support as VLC.

Mplayer is cool, but its not VLC.
Still, it will do.

[Iggy]

(Windows isn't great before you wonder, just overall OSX is no better, just different IMO)

True, but again I don't use the pad on a laptop if I can avoid it.
I use a two button wireless mouse (in the old days I used to use a trackball that mounted on the edge of my keyboard, perfect for your right thumb).

So multi-touch is neat, but I'll still be using a PC mouse.

BTW - Why keep bringing up Windows and OSX?
We're not discussing those OS'.

[Iggy]

MorphOS was experimented on a G5 a couple months (years?) ago, and playing 1080p H.264 was definitely no trouble, even on a single core of the dual/quad 2.7GHz G5.

And what's with VLC? MPlayer (which is available on MorphOS, AROS and OS4) is very capable in this regard (often more, actually), and more efficient than VLC...



Sure, more speed is wanted for this kind of things. Noone will deny that. Odyssey Web Browser for MorphOS can actually play HD Youtube itself (in overlay mode for best speed), for your information. 720p ones should be playable on some 1.5-2GHz G4 machines... And it's definitely no trouble to play them in MPlayer as well.

Here's a screenshot for you (try to do this on UAE :
http://fabportnawak.free.fr/owbshots/youtube.png

Nice Fab, I'll admit.
And I've played 720p video on my machine.

VLC does support an idiotic number of codecs (though I will admit that Mplayer is easier to use).

"MorphOS was experimented on a G5 a couple months (years?) ago"
I got a laugh out of that till I looked up an old message from Pega-1 on that, it WAS a couple years ago.

[Iggy]

The ridiculously expensive AmigaOne X1000, with G5 class CPU and being sold with OS4.

We all kind of figured that's what you meant.
Actually though, the PA6T performs closer to a G4 then a G5.
The X1000 has faster memory and better display cards, so it should perform well.
But if MorphOS is ever ported to a G5, that processor will mop the floor with the PASemi CPU (after all, the real use the PA6T was intended for was laptops).

[Iggy]

VLC is much more advanced than mplayer.  If you have any doubts just look up people trying to use a hdhomerun with mplayer vs vlc.   I personally would love to have the latest version on AROS with libbluray support.

Sorry for making so many responses, (to much caffeine).
VLC doesn't support encrypted blurays so its not too useful for playing that format.

[Iggy]

yes it does

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/22428/vlc_gets_encrypted_blu_ray_playback_capabilities_thanks_to_a_hack/index.html

OMG! That's fantastic!
Well, that product just keeps getting better.
No wonder I haven't needed Media Player under Windows for the last several years.

[Iggy]

Look, I use VLC, I know it's good, but can't you see that MPlayer is very similar in functionality?

Pretty much. And since I don't stream content over my home network the difference is negligible.

[Iggy]

Hi,

"Pretty much. And since I don't stream content over my home network the difference is negligible. "

Probably because that old G4 can't handle steaming, you need a fast processor that runs over 1.6 ghz to get proper streaming done right (at least in the PC world).

OK I stirred to poop really good on this one, gotta run

smerf

Not a problem with my Phenom based X86 system. I just never got around to putting a PC near my living room entertainment center.

[Iggy]

Hi,

@Iggy,

Thats not what I meant, and you know it.

You have a nice system there, but need to upgrade that video card. I am using a 5770 MSI radeon card in my 6 core AMD machine. They are inexpensive and run real well, I also have a 5750 in my quad core Intel Q6600 (old silicon) computer.

Probably will upgrade next year, if AMD brings out something better. Don't like buying Intel products (hate them just a little bit less than Macs).

On a high note though, I am interested though in a G5 Mac, 2.7 ghz. You know if MorphOS will run on it?

OK, curiosity caught the old dog, I may suffer through touching a Mac just to see if there is any progress made since I last threw up.

smerf

I only have an old 4870 in my X86 box..:confused:

And we're only looking at R400s in the G5.

Although...The PCIe G5's could support better cards (especially if we found a way around the firmware limitations).

BTW Smerf, I already have a line on a dual 2.5 GHz G5.

[Iggy]

I can not believe you guys are still going on about this!

[Iggy]

Not sure what you are talking about this thread has made it's way through 4 topics >.<

You have been talking about VLC since early this morning, T!
Its late in the afternoon (here) and I'm going out to get some dinner.
Don't you guys eat?

[Iggy]

@Mazze
OS4/WOS/PUP compatibility: AROS doesn't have that.

Good points all, except maybe that one.