Distribution Licence For Workbench...

[Iggy]

Hosting 3.0 is probably legal. 3.1 presents some problems because of the poor way that transfer of IP ownership was carried out.
But a real test of the 3.1 copyright would be hosting the 3.1 source files.
These used to be in the hands of a few people, but I'm not sure who would have them now.
Mind you, I don't think anyone that wants to design an Amigoid OS would download or examine these files (it would contaminate their own project), but it would nudge AInc. and Hyperion into action.

[Iggy]

Well no matter what anyone here has to say about trying to put me off doing this, it's too late as I have gone ahead and started, I have given enough chances for anyone that has a legitimate claim to have their say and not one peep have I had in response...

"...I have gone ahead and started."

No you haven't.

[Iggy]

Erm... I have... :confused:

I've started on .

Thought it only fitting to kick off AmigaUK.com with something that is really Amiga only related...

CommodoreScotland.com will follow shortly as I need to do a lot of editing and shuffling things about first...

The mediafire link does not work (at least it hasn't worked correctly for me).

Personally this is more like the "getting hit over the head" room for me.

Correction - Its only the install disk that won't download correctly.

[Iggy]

Just checked... all files are downloading fine here...

No, the install disk does not download. Again, all others, fine. Not install.

[Iggy]

Sorry Iggy, just checked once again and all 3 of them are downloading fine here, must be something at your end...

Don't you mean all six (there six disks listed). And, again , no the install disk won't download. I've got the other five. How could it be "my end"?

[Iggy]

Apologies Franko, can't say I like MediaFire (as it took me about 2 dozen attempts to get the install disk to download), but it has worked.
OK everybody. Whether you believe it or not, Franko has made them available AND they have been downloaded.
Report away everybody.

[Iggy]

Just send a report to amiga.org moderator to remove all links to that site.
Staf.

They can always be re-posted and I don't have to link to it to mention amigauk.com.

BTW - Why is this issue important to you Staf? Surely you don't believe that Bill McEwen deserves to be well treated?
The original AmigaInc in Washington still hasn't paid off its bad debts.

[Iggy]

PS:Anybody got the original 1.3 disks, I've dug mine out but even after cleaning them they are full of errors and I can't make them into ADFs...

(been in a box for over 15 years, methinks their knackered...)

Yeah, that's not good. Floppies don't like long term storage. An occasional read helps preserve data as all reads rewrite existing data.

[Iggy]

Someone owns the IP (crooks who should be behind bars), and they have rights.

"crooks who should be behind bars"

And they deserve the same treatment as you or I?
Hey, you'd love the ACLU in my country.
They think consistency is so important that they go to court to secure the rights of local Nazis to demonstrate.

[Iggy]

No it doesn't.

Actually, yes, it does. This has been the case since 8" floppies were common.

[Iggy]

Get of the high horse. Mr never speed in the Car, Mr never drop litter.....

Really getting bored with self-righteousness crap. Yes Mr Koaftder you manged to f*ck me off so much. I hope the moderators ban you f*cking arse. Finished.

+1

Self righteous=serious asshole

[Iggy]

I'd rather be a self righteous asshole than Franko's gimp.

And Poof! You are!

[Iggy]

You know, I don't see anyone here being nearly this anal about other Amiga properties like the boing ball.

[Iggy]

one Bloodline. We can choiose

Like most things, it's hard to see when you're on the other side of the fence... So to speak... I think most people here are probably quite happy with the law that protects their possessions... It is illegal for me to break into someone's house and steal their DVDs. We don't get to pick and choose the law, if we don't like the laws of our country we can in theory vote in a government who will change the laws, but enough people have to dislike that law, that is the consequence of living in a civilised society.

Again for the record, I think big corporations have abused both copyright and patent law to the point of making them a joke... But if I expect the law to protect me then I have to respect it, even if I don't like all of it

Actually, you're wrong on that one Bloodline. We can choose to disobey a law. Its the entire core of civil disobedience. There are two ways to defeat a law that is unpopular. One is the way you mentioned (working through the political system). The other is to refuse to submit to it and fight it out in the courts.
If it wasn't for this later method (and jury nullification) prohibition would not have been as easily defeated in my country.

[Iggy]

As an open source guy I like strict enforcement of all IP laws, it is advantageous for open source.
Maybe I missed something but Franko is distributing copyrighted material without permission. The rest is bullshit.

greets,
Staf.

I appreciate your opinion on this Staf.
But I can't defend the copyright holder. He's dishonest.