AmigaOS 4.1 Update 5 CD for the AmigaONE X1000 "First Contact" system has gone GOLD!

[Duce]

I was on the pre-order list for my SAM 440ep.  One of the first in the door on this new round of Amiga (SAM/X machines), got it late 2008, iirc.

I love my SAM.  I am also well aware that the thing gimping these machines the most is a lack of modern software.  That will be no different for the X1000 than it will my lowly SAM, and no fancy chips and 10 USB ports changes that at all.

Your statement that any web browser on OS4 these days is "perfectly good and capable" is nonsense, sorry.

I cannot even check my Gmail on my SAM with modern OS4 web browsers without them locking up entirely, leaving me grabbing for my bloody iPad.  This is fact.  Period.  I cannot do what I can on my 3 year old iphone 3 on this "modern web browser" machine. The thing can't even do GMail/Google services reliably.

I'm a big fan of OS4, a real big fan - but let's not start spreading the horse****e so thin it's transparent.  I've often advocated people looking into OS4 machines, but never under the guise it'll be a "daily driver" machine.  It's nowhere near there.

[Duce]

Had no problem using gmail and Facebook in OWB on MorphOS. Worked well enough that the old eMac was used pretty heavily as the "guest computer" at home for a good while. Some of my friends thought they were using Linux on there. :roflmao:

Either did I, on MorphOS.  And you know how much it pains me to give takemehomegrandma a "gimme" like that, man.

:laughing:

[Duce]

Wise men don't piss on the past while praising the future, Bill.  There is room for everyone without wiggling a finger towards people "stuck in the past", but let's not blind people of shortcomings in each solution.

A.org is a ragtag crew of misfits, drunks, perverts and weirdos.  I couldn't have picked a better place to call home.  The one thing we can all agree on is we love the Amiga, regardless of what incarnation one chooses.

Some are strictly 68k folks.  Some preach MOS like it is Jesus Risen.  Some people are fawning all over themselves about OS4, AROS, FPGA, Natami, Emulation, the list goes on.

If you enjoy it, whatever you use - Godspeed.  Room for everyone.  I'll say the same to the guy that's monkeying around with an old C64, making it do Twitter, or the Atari dude still using a ST for MIDI in a world of ProTools.  

It's easy to compute now.  Computers are like using a toaster.  The Amiga, she's got personality.  You don't keep these bastards running unless you know what you are doing.

The 68K guys get giggles out of the fact us PPC miggy users have issues with old software.  I get giggles out of the fact they are patching together old 1200's with accels that haven't been made for years and etc.
No animosity, we're on the same boat in the end.

[Duce]

Just relating my experience with OS4 browsers - YMMV.

While GMail itself occasionally works on the machine, most of the other google services (docs, etc. - which I rely on for business) rarely do with OWB.  It's just terribly inconsistent, sometimes things work, sometimes the entire machine locks up.

I'm running a bone stock SAM 440ep with 4.1 with latest update, nothing installed except for said browsers.

That being said, I didn't buy the machine to use as a PC replacement daily driver, so I do enjoy it for what it is a great deal.

[Duce]

All I stated is that the browsers for OS 4.1 have issues with modern web demands.  I try and use such sites, the system locks up entirely 95% of the time.  I could give you a list the length of your arm of sites that simply do not work with the browsers available for OS 4.  Lovely systems to use for fun, but you simply are not going to use one for your daily driver system unless your internet/browsing demands are at the level of 3-4 years ago.  Was merely trying to illustrate the fact the problem with OS4 is software availability, and whether the machine be a SAM 440ep base model or a tricked out X1000, you're still in the same position when the SW choices simply are not modern.  I didn't buy the thing as a "main PC", so obviously I am not too jerked up that I can't use it for everything that I use my i7 Win 7 PC for, net wise.

X1000, SAM 460, or SAM 440, you're still running the same OS.  It's not a matter of the programs running slow - it's a matter of them not working at all in some cases with the browsers, or otherwise not running well enough on some websites to even use.  I'm well aware that I should not expect a 667 mhz machine to run as speedy as a X1000, but it's simply not a matter of clockspeed and HW resources.  I don't expect my Pentium 200 that is currently functioning as a doorstop to browse as fast as my 4.1 ghz daily driver, but it'll get the job done in a pinch, albeit slow since both are Windows PC's.

If I have missed a step in how these browsers perform optimally (or work on a wider variety of sites), or if they require additional packages to work properly, I've missed mention of them in any docs, and I assure you I've looked 1000 times, lol.  Fresh install of OS, fresh install of browser, same thing.