Apollo Team announces the Vampire V4

[Kremlar]

Can't understand why a few people don't see the draw of a standalone.  These will sell many times more than OS4 PPC systems in a shorter amount of time.

PPC may have been the way Commodore was going, but what Commodore did and was doing with the Amiga is far less interesting than what the original Amiga team created.

More people are interested in what the Amiga would have been if it was continued along those original lines.  68K, enhanced chipset, etc.  

If Hyerion were smart they would back port features from OS4 to OS3 68K (if legally possible).  They would sell many more licenses than PPC.

[Kremlar]

My experience with regular hard drives is the same.  One day everything is going swimmingly and the next day it fails to start.

Right.  SSDs fail too, but unless you need huge capacities solid state is the way to go nowadays.

[Kremlar]

http://distrita.com/alert-important-notice-apollo-team-is-asking-for-your-help/

Someone explain to me what is happening with this registration stuff

The Facebook Amiga group is discussing it..., So the Apollo team kick out Kipper2k from the group over a disagreement, (Vampire would not be what it is today without kipper), and now want people with boards to send them back so they can implement a registration system ?

Uhhhh no thanks !

Huh??  Send them back???

[Kremlar]

Apollo team main priority should be 100% compatibility 68040/060 cpus. Any other way to do it is pointless. That is just my opinion.

It's a valid opinion, but it's difficult to argue with the success they have had.  They sell them faster than they can make them and have developed a large loyal following.  When they're outselling PPC offerings many times over, in such a small market, how can you argue with their success?

A couple of people complaining about the lack of FPU/MMU isn't going to change their course.  A lack of sales might, but that's not going to happen when the vast majority of users care more about other features that have higher priority.

They will likely get to an FPU/MMU in time, but they will prioritize to their liking.

The amount of progress and success that they have had is really quite amazing.

[Kremlar]

Thanks for accepting my point of view, but your point is nonsense. You are basicly saying that if something is popular / succesful it some kind of shield for cristisim.

Not what I'm saying at all.  I'm just saying they would likely not adjust their course to placate a small number of people when the vast majority are happy with their current feature roadmap.  Again, their success speaks for itself.

[Kremlar]

Yes, like Microsoft Windows on x86 was more successful than Amiga on 68000.. Wait....

Huh???

[Kremlar]

Not following the analogy.  I think Gunnar is listening to his market.

C= certainly didn't, and paid the ultimate price.

[Kremlar]

Gunnar doesn't appear to listen to his market, the market is so desperate that they are listening to him.

I disagree.  

The analogy is that just because people buy things, doesn't mean it's any good.

I think that's a poor excuse for your reasoning.  Clearly if Vampire did not have features people wanted they would go with a difference accelerator.  There are reasons why Microsoft and Apple could sell an inferior product, none of which apply to the Apollo team.

Also if it were better (i.e. compatible fpu and mmu) then more people would want it.

True, but more people would also want it if it were:
 - faster
 - standalone
 - had full AGA support
 - etc.

FPU/MMU aren't the only features left to add.

That does fit my observations that apollo isn't meant for amiga, this is just a test ground so people can do his QA and marketing and then he'll be off.

Which explains why AGA support is such a high priority.  Oh wait...

FWIW Commodore also had more people wanting to buy hardware than they could produce. It was the XOR patent license fee that did them in, not a lack of customers.

LOL!  Commodore was in serious trouble way before then.  You're looking back through rose colored glasses if you think Commodore would have lasted.  The  CD32 was OK, but was not going to save the company.  Now, if  you told me that AAA or Hombre or better, along with a new generation of machines was about to be released, I might be slightly on board.